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    Re: Unemployment claims show a big drop

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Unemployment wont come down as long as demand is not there and demand wont be there because people are insecure about the future because one side of the political spectrum (depends on which country) and so called "experts" continue to talk doom and gloom and often because there is profit in negative outcomes.
    Actually, in the US nobody is listening to the "experts" and everyone listening to the politicians and the talking heads.

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    Re: Unemployment claims show a big drop

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Actually, in the US nobody is listening to the "experts" and everyone listening to the politicians and the talking heads.
    Same thing often. The Politicians use and listen to "experts" and the TV news use "experts" and they almost always use very pessimistic "experts" with very little counter wieght, so the over all mood is doom and gloom.

    Take Spain... the so called experts and politicians and media constantly state "the sovereign debt problem of Spain"... instead of the actual fact.. that Spain has one of the lowest debt vs GDP if not the lowest of the major economies.. 64% last time I looked a few weeks ago.

    Miss-information for political and profit purposes are ripe and they are almost universally negative which depresses demand which in turn means unemployment goes up. And add to this cluster**** you have certain countries where the whole political system is ****ed up due to infighting /wave USA, so nothing what so ever can get done to fix major problems. Much of this **** could be fixed if the US congress and President could get their big business backers hands out of their asses and actually do something about the housing problem that caused this **** in the first place. Yes this means haircuts and debt forgiveness on an epic scale, but there is no way out of the problem since most people's wealth is sitting in their homes.

    This crisis is 70%+ mental and 30% real economic problems.
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    Re: Unemployment claims show a big drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yeah, my problem however is that I have a PhD in physics. So I'm very restricted in where I can work because there isn't just a "something" that I'm not so overqualified for that someone would give me a shot (mostly because once the economy improves, they'd figure I'd jet out of there for the first R&D job I could get...which wouldn't be far from the truth). So it's academia (where there are no teaching jobs left) or industry (where the high tech sector has been demolished).

    Go to school, get an education and a degree so you can get a better job. I kept hearing that. Turns out not to be so true. If the government forgets the people and works in it's own and corporate interests for too long, it doesn't matter what your education level is because the economy will become so f'd up that it doesn't matter.
    i hear you. i'm masters level molecular / microbiology. most R&D (at least in my area) is hiring temporary contractors instead of real employees. i did this; now i am back in academia. and i feel very lucky, even though it's significantly less pay. i job searched all of this past summer as my contract was coming to an end. there weren't a lot of jobs listed, and most of those that were had a leading candidate, so they were not real job postings. businesses are trying to outsource everything. the only jobs they aren't outsourcing are the people sitting at desks dealing with the CROs that the work has been outsourced to.

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    Re: Unemployment claims show a big drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yeah, my problem however is that I have a PhD in physics. So I'm very restricted in where I can work because there isn't just a "something" that I'm not so overqualified for that someone would give me a shot (mostly because once the economy improves, they'd figure I'd jet out of there for the first R&D job I could get...which wouldn't be far from the truth). So it's academia (where there are no teaching jobs left) or industry (where the high tech sector has been demolished).

    Go to school, get an education and a degree so you can get a better job. I kept hearing that. Turns out not to be so true. If the government forgets the people and works in it's own and corporate interests for too long, it doesn't matter what your education level is because the economy will become so f'd up that it doesn't matter.
    There's always that cold fusion problem that i hear can be fixed if you just spent enough time in your basement or garage.

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    Re: Unemployment claims show a big drop

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Its about new claims...the giving up thing doesnt apply
    So, in other words, if 100% if the labor force becomes unemployed, uses up all their benefits, and then are dropped from the unemployment rolls, our unemployment rate would then be zero? Damn, I love this kind of math. I think I will run for president. I can think up ways to get unemployment to zero that Bush and Obama combined never thought of. LOL.
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    Re: Unemployment claims show a big drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yeah, my problem however is that I have a PhD in physics. So I'm very restricted in where I can work because there isn't just a "something" that I'm not so overqualified for that someone would give me a shot (mostly because once the economy improves, they'd figure I'd jet out of there for the first R&D job I could get...which wouldn't be far from the truth). So it's academia (where there are no teaching jobs left) or industry (where the high tech sector has been demolished).

    Go to school, get an education and a degree so you can get a better job. I kept hearing that. Turns out not to be so true. If the government forgets the people and works in it's own and corporate interests for too long, it doesn't matter what your education level is because the economy will become so f'd up that it doesn't matter.
    If you can take some ASCP (Advanced Supply Chain Planning) courses. On any resume and cover letter state that you are looking to transition into another field. With your education and ASCP getting above entry level jobs would not be too difficult. The pay is also better then I recall you stated you were getting in your field. It doesnt matter if you want to transition out or not it would not be a bad stop gap measure
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    Re: Unemployment claims show a big drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    People are giving up. I've been looking for a job for quite some time now. Can't seem to track one down.
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    Re: Unemployment claims show a big drop

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    Come to Louisiana. I have a hand that needs to be replaced.
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    Re: Unemployment claims show a big drop

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    So, in other words, if 100% if the labor force becomes unemployed, uses up all their benefits, and then are dropped from the unemployment rolls, our unemployment rate would then be zero? Damn, I love this kind of math. I think I will run for president. I can think up ways to get unemployment to zero that Bush and Obama combined never thought of. LOL.
    You should instead run for a book on basic logic. The statistic in question deals with NEW claims for unemployment. It has absolutely nothing to do with people who are already unemployed.

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    Re: Unemployment claims show a big drop

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Finally a little good news, admittedly nothing to break out the champagne about...but its better than it being WORSE than its been.
    Or it means they have been unemployed for so long their unemployment benefits expired
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