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    Re: Chased home: Mob attacks man in his house

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    And I'm not arguing against guns. That's the ****ing point. I pointed out that guns can make a situation worse or better and people threw a hissy fit.
    Well, that's a straw-man argument, then, as you were responding to me when you asked 'why is it so hard for people to admit that a gun can make a situation worse?' I never suggested anything of the sort, but did point out that the observation is largely irrelevant. It seems you agree when you admit things can go either way.

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    Re: Chased home: Mob attacks man in his house

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Too bad we aren't back in those days, then your comment would have some relevance.

    People carry guns out of fear. Plain and simple. You're not brave because have a gun. This entire notion that strength is related to a firearm sickens me.
    People call for the disarming of America out of fear; not the other way around. Those looking for the proper tools through which they can protect life, liberty, and property are not doing so out of fear; but rather out of commitment to keep their freedom.
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    Re: Chased home: Mob attacks man in his house

    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous1776 View Post
    Well, that's a straw-man argument.
    It's not a strawman argument. That is the first and only point I've been making the entire time. If you thought that I was making another argument, then every response you've made to me has been irrelevant to what I've been posting. Perhaps you entered a conversation that you hadn't been following.

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    Re: Chased home: Mob attacks man in his house

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    This sounds like the area my brother, one of his Army friends, and I were in when we were in Dallas looking for a hotel after going to Six Flaggs for the day. My brother was practically led out of the BK in the area before he was even able to ask for anything. And this was before he decided to dress like a woman in public.
    Good thing ya'll didn't go Goff's Hamburgers:




    The guy was a loon. He eventually bought a statue Lenin and put it out in front of his place.

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    Re: Chased home: Mob attacks man in his house

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    People call for the disarming of America out of fear; not the other way around. Those looking for the proper tools through which they can protect life, liberty, and property are not doing so out of fear; but rather out of commitment to keep their freedom.
    That's where you're wrong. I'm not calling for disarming America. I'm simply voicing an opinion that guns do not automatically help when you have an intruder/s.

    Do I think it would better if that were the case? Yes. Guns make weak people strong and brave. Brave men do not need guns to be brave as the gentleman in the article proved. That was a true display of strength and courage.

    But in regard to this particular incident, I simply stated that having more firearms floating around in the general populace would not be a good thing. The situation in the article would be ended rather badly if more of them had guns (good and bad).
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    Re: Chased home: Mob attacks man in his house

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    That's where you're wrong. I'm not calling for disarming America...
    No, it's just the law abiding citizens you want to see disarmed. Criminals, police and soldiers can all keep their guns, right? That's right about where you lost all credibility. I can quote your specific words, if you'd like.
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    Re: Chased home: Mob attacks man in his house

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    His comment was intentionally obtuse, so my answer was appropriately flippant. Insurance is not based on fear, but rather on risk assessment. This applies whether you're carrying fire insurance in case your house burns down or carrying a gun in case trouble decides to find you. While Tettsou presumes to know the mind of every legal gun owner, I can assure you that an individuals reasoning for taking their personal protection into their own hands is as varied as the people themselves. His assertion that anyone carrying a gun is a coward is trolling, at best.
    What exactly about my comments were obtuse?
    Where did I claim to know the mind of anyone? In fact, it was you and others that made erroneous claims about liberals and myself being a victim. Pure fantasy.
    If you believe I said anyone carrying a gun is a coward, you'll need to copy and paste that for us. If so, I'll apologize.
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    Re: Chased home: Mob attacks man in his house

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    No, it's just the law abiding citizens you want to see disarmed. Criminals, police and soldiers can all keep their guns, right? That's right about where you lost all credibility. I can quote your specific words, if you'd like.
    Please quote it. Quote the entire post so it's not out of context.
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    Re: Chased home: Mob attacks man in his house

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Perhaps you entered a conversation that you hadn't been following.
    Nope. I followed your response to me just fine . . . Nice try though.
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    Re: Chased home: Mob attacks man in his house

    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous1776 View Post
    Nope. I followed your response to me just fine . . . Nice try though.
    It wasn't a try. You engaged me in the midst of a conversation with Oscar and I responded to you within the context of that conversation appropriately. You also implied that I was arguing against gun use which I haven't been at all revealing the fact that you had no idea what my position was.

    Hint: When you enter a conversation that two other people are having, figure out what they're talking about before you respond. I don't need to waste my time responding to someone who doesn't even know what I'm arguing.

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