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    Re: Chased home: Mob attacks man in his house

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    what is really sad, is all of these anti gun liberals who think the guy was better off being unarmed, would be the very same people complaining about the cops not doing their jobs if they hadn't arrived in time and the mob had beaten this guy to a pulp.

    anyone here actually believe this mob wouldn't have severely beaten, if not killed, this guy had the cops not happened to have shown up? anyone want to bet that the violence wouldn't have escalated to involve everyone inside the home?
    The guy may very well have been dead and his family hurt had it went on longer...a mob builds momentum they dont calm on their own they feed of each others anger thats why police react strongly to any group things...they have to and fast..
    Having said that I wont blame others opinions merely on them being liberal or conservative...everyone certainly has a right to believe what they may...
    What I think is more in play here with the difference in opinions is most americans enjoy a threat free existence...they are oblivious to the reality of what can happen to them.. and their opinions reflect that

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    Re: Chased home: Mob attacks man in his house

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    they are oblivious to the reality of what can happen to them.. and their opinions reflect that
    Including people who don't consider the possibility that the homeowner having gun could have made the situation worse and gotten everybody killed.

    It's possible that a gun would have helped and it's possible that a gun would have made it worse. Discrediting either argument illustrates a poor analysis of reality (I'm not saying you specifically are discrediting either argument - I'm just making the point).

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    Re: Chased home: Mob attacks man in his house

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Including people who don't consider the possibility that the homeowner having gun could have made the situation worse and gotten everybody killed.

    It's possible that a gun would have helped and it's possible that a gun would have made it worse. Discrediting either argument illustrates a poor analysis of reality (I'm not saying you specifically are discrediting either argument - I'm just making the point).
    the mob had already chased him down, kicked in his door, invaded his home and pointed a gun at him. how much worse could it have gotten?

    or will anyone argue that the crowd would have simply turned around and left if the cops hadn't shown up? at least if the guy or anyone in his family had been armed, he would have had some chance of defending himself.
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    Re: Chased home: Mob attacks man in his house

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    the mob had already chased him down, kicked in his door, invaded his home and pointed a gun at him. how much worse could it have gotten?
    considering that (at least) one of the mob guys had a gun, here's a potential scenario: homeowner grabs his gun, shoots, mob guy shoots, all hell breaks loose, kids dead off of stray bullets

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    Re: Chased home: Mob attacks man in his house

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    considering that (at least) one of the mob guys had a gun, here's a potential scenario: homeowner grabs his gun, shoots, mob guy shoots, all hell breaks loose, kids dead off of stray bullets
    and how is that worse than: guy doesn't have a gun, mob beats everyone in the house to death?
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    Re: Chased home: Mob attacks man in his house

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    and how is that worse than: guy doesn't have a gun, mob beats everyone in the house to death?
    I didn't say it was worse. I said that it was possible just like your situation is possible and that it was dumb to discount certain possibilities. Will you pay attention for once in your life?

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    Re: Chased home: Mob attacks man in his house

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    BTW, only cowards rely on guns to make them strong.
    Like the founders! Those pussies. I bet they could have worked out their differences with the British over tea.
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    Re: Chased home: Mob attacks man in his house

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Like the founders! Those pussies. I bet they could have worked out their differences with the British over tea.
    Well, there was a tea party involved, if I recall correctly.
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    Re: Chased home: Mob attacks man in his house

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    considering that (at least) one of the mob guys had a gun, here's a potential scenario: homeowner grabs his gun, shoots, mob guy shoots, all hell breaks loose, kids dead off of stray bullets
    All hell had already broke loose. As the police arrived, the victim was struggling with one of the criminals that was trying to shoot him. If the victim had a gun, maybe he could have scared the mob away. Without one, he was clearly a sitting duck just waiting to be shot.
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    Re: Chased home: Mob attacks man in his house

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I didn't say it was worse. I said that it was possible just like your situation is possible and that it was dumb to discount certain possibilities. Will you pay attention for once in your life?
    if you are going to be beaten to death anyway, how is it worse to have a gun and take one or more of your attackers with you?
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