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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You are assuming those options are available. Again, what churches are in the area? Who gets to approve your choice of church attendance? How close does the church have to be?
    All really good questions...ask the judge when you see him. Or better yet...stand by your principles and tell him you want the cell next to Liblady. You can clang your c ups on the bars together and sing..."Nobody knows...da trouble I seen...nobody knows but Jes..."

    Oh...wait...thats a religious song...

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Okay, how about making church-going folk who commit crimes be required to perform additional services for their church. Mentor program, meals on wheels, day care, maintenance/upkeep. Essentially community service for the cross.

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Well, they do recognize at least part of the Constitution - the Second amendment - down in Dixie. It's the first and the fourteenth they have real problems with.

    By the way, I'd like to be your friend but I have no idea how to respond.
    We have no problem with the 1st Amendmant. The Tea Party rallies originated here. Also, everybody here gets due process. So please take your asinine retarded P.O.S. statements to a place where they give a damn about what you say.
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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    All really good questions...ask the judge when you see him. Or better yet...stand by your principles and tell him you want the cell next to Liblady. You can clang your c ups on the bars together and sing..."Nobody knows...da trouble I seen...nobody knows but Jes..."

    Oh...wait...thats a religious song...
    I am pretty sure I would a) not be committing a crime to warrant being in this position to begin with, but certainly b) not going to be in this area to even have the chance of going up in front of any judge in that area.

    But keep trying to divert the topic. It is making our case for us that you have little argument for your position.
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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    [QUOTE=roguenuke;1059829456]I'd go to jail. I'd also have good grounds to fight that someone in a similar situation to me but with different religious beliefs was basically offered a less severe punishment because of their religious beliefs alone. That is discrimination. The law would then be struck down somewhere within our judicial system since it is religious discrimination and violates the 1st and 14th Amendments. It would cost them a lot more in legal battles than it would ever have cost to just offer a general community service program.

    Don't feel like actually debating me on the issues I brought up then, huh?[/QUOTE]You read a two line sentence in a two paragraph article and pretend to know if everyone is offered the sentence...if there are or arent local churches of multiple denomination, or what the travel restrictions are? And Im supposed to debate that? Heres the thing...Im willing to bet they have a lot more sentencing options for diffent people other than go to jail or go meet with Pastor John at the Antioch baptist church on 12th street. You know little if anything about the judge, the community, their typical sentencing...but because religion is involved you pretend you 'know' how this is a violation of the constitution.

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    and this is relevent to your objection in what way?
    it is relevant to your counter objection.

    1) there are church going people who commit crimes.

    2) so long as there are [any] church going people who commit crimes -regardless of even if it is just potential, this is preferential treatment.

    or are you going to argue there are no church going people who commit misdemeanors, no DUI's, no domestic abuse cases. no unpaid parking tickets?
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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Got any evidence against it? You're making the claim he doesn't exist. So prove your point.

    But back on topic, if they don't want to sit in church with a bunch of beautiful women nicely dressed in a gorgeous building......**** 'em. Lock 'em up. It's their choice.
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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I am pretty sure I would a) not be committing a crime to warrant being in this position to begin with, but certainly b) not going to be in this area to even have the chance of going up in front of any judge in that area.

    But keep trying to divert the topic. It is making our case for us that you have little argument for your position.
    Ah...so it doesnt impact you in even the smallest bit. Well...that DOES make sense that it would matter to you.

    Go to jail...take advantage of alternative sentencing. Thats a violation of your 1st amendment constitutional rights? Please...do show how it is either abridging your rights to free practice of religion or establishing a state religion.

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    I was getting ready to say the very same thing. Besides it won't hurt anyone to learn an little about how to treat your fellow man and it doen't have to be about religion, Jesus is all about being the best person you can be as you, do unto others etc.
    You'd be fine if the criminal chose a Buddhist temple or Hindu temple or a Muslim mosque over a Christian church? Do you believe the judge in Alabama would be fine with any of these alternative or do you think Christian church is what the judge meant?










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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    it is relevant to your counter objection.

    1) there are church going people who commit crimes.
    strawman, I never said there weren't

    2) so long as there are [any] church going people who commit crimes -regardless of even if it is just potential, this is preferential treatment.
    how so? in either case the offender has the choice to not go to jail

    or are you going to argue there are no church going people who commit misdemeanors, no DUI's, no domestic abuse cases. no unpaid parking tickets?
    I would argue that the chances of a person who goes to chruch every sunday doing so,, is so small as to be irrelevent to the discussion. I am a "church going person" and I don't go every sunday. I don't know anyone who attends every sunday.
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