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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    I wouldn't say that they're establishing a religion, but this is definitely a law respecting a religious establishment, which is a no-go.

    IMO, send the little bastards to boot camp for a couple months. I'm willing to bet that most young adults who commit minor, non-violent crimes are lacking in much needed discipline.
    I like your tough-on-crime, hang-em-high attitude but there are also cases where the idea of brotherly love and learning to be a good neighbor can also play a role..

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    that's very dishonest, since I mentioned nothing about race.
    You're very dishonest as your little ploy was obvious.
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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    They're not sanctioning religion any more than they are sanctioning recycling or cleaning highways or any other community service, They are hoping these young offenders learn something of traditional shared values. There is a great possibility that they might actually come away with some life lessons and turn away from a life of crime.

    Religion is to Leftists what kryptonite is to Superman.
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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    There's nothing at all wrong with that message and I would hope that all convicts seek out that message and take it to heart once they're done serving their time -- but while they're in the custody of the state, I would hope the state is not crossing the church/state line by sanctioning religion.
    "But" is a magical word which means "I'm about to contradict myself, so just forget everything I just said".

    Where are the secularists with their alternative options? Why aren't they speaking out? Why don't they care about other secularists? Why are secularists leaving their 'members' (using the term loosely) to fend for themselves?

    Apparently secularists don't care about this, otherwise they would be representing their own.

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    Ah, Liberals are godless now?
    Practically, if not theoretically, yes, liberals are godless.

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post

    Which religion are they people in this community trying to establish?
    Nice strawman ... notice the Constitution doesn't say, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of [a] religion"

    ... it reads: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    Ah, Liberals are godless now?
    No, it's just that they worship unusual and non-traditional gods.

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Nice strawman ... notice the Constitution doesn't say, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of [a] religion"

    ... it reads: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion
    So you are looking s a Church as an 'establishment'?

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post

    They're not sanctioning religion any more than they are sanctioning recycling or cleaning highways or any other community service
    Great analogy ... yes, the state is absolutely sancationing the cleaning of highways, which they run.

    sanc·tion
    1. authoritative permission or approval, as for an action.


    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post

    Religion is to Leftists what kryptonite is to Superman.
    That is complete and utter bull****. This is about upholding the U.S. Constitution and not even about religion per se. Some of us are thrilled we escaped the state/religion marriage like that of the Church of England and will fight vigilantly to protect this nation from ever moving in that direction. That by no means translates into we don't attend church on the Sabbath, many of us do.

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And that's where you want criminals to serve their sentence?

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