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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    not in this case. in this case, there is NO secular alternative to jail-time.
    Well let atheists be warned, then: don't do the crime if you don't want to be legally compelled to report to a church on a regular basis for a set period of time.

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post

    I don't pay taxes.

    I haven't paid taxes in years.

    Yes I file every year, but I'm part of the population who gets back more then we pay in, and shortly I'll be in a combat zone, so that's another tax-free year.

    But how do I fee about your taxes supporting mosques? With this sort of program, I'm ok with it.
    Of course you pay taxes, don't be ridiculous. You may not pay federal income tax but if you live in the U.S., you are paying state taxes (real estate taxes, sales taxes, etc...)

    So how would you feel if your tax dollars went to support Muslim mosques?

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Well let atheists be warned, then: don't do the crime if you don't want to be legally compelled to report to a church on a regular basis for a set period of time.
    Sure, and likewise let Christians be warned, since the precedence is now set, they could also have to do community service in areas their religion dictates is wrong. I think Christians should be able to be placed (as a choice or jail) doing community service at planned parenthood or an abortion clinic. That would be ok by you, right Jerry? Afterall, if they do the crime they should be prepared to do the time.

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Well let atheists be warned, then: don't do the crime if you don't want to be legally compelled to report to a church on a regular basis for a set period of time.
    again, this would violate our Constitution, which you have sworn to protect & defend.

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Well let atheists be warned, then: don't do the crime if you don't want to be legally compelled to report to a church on a regular basis for a set period of time.
    So you'd be ok with a staunch Catholic or something given the choice of Jail or community service at an abortion clinic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    So atheists are incapable of performing community service through a church? Is it that they melt in water and don't cast a reflection, or does god send thunder and lightning when an atheist steps on 501c3 property?

    No one said they had to practice any religion. They broke a law and Big Bro is giving them the option of serving hours at a local church, probably close to their home and/or child's school, instead of jail. What's not to like?
    What's not to like is that it provides a special status to religious organizations.
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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So you'd be ok with a staunch Catholic or something given the choice of Jail or community service at an abortion clinic?
    last I checked they don't commit infanticide at church. perhaps a better analogy would be community service at the local animal shelter killing puppies and kittens
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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by nijato View Post
    What's not to like is that it provides a special status to religious organizations.
    i wouldn't have that much of a problem if a secular alternative to weekly church was provided.

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    last I checked they don't commit infanticide at church. perhaps a better analogy would be community service at the local animal shelter killing puppies and kittens
    No, I think something of equal affront to religious/non-religious belief is in order. Abortion, or Planned Parenthood (they don't do just abortion), or some gay rights activist thing, etc.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, I think something of equal affront to religious/non-religious belief is in order. Abortion, or Planned Parenthood (they don't do just abortion), or some gay rights activist thing, etc.
    bolded: better analogy, since it doesn't require they assist with killing
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