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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    So stop feeding the troll.
    good idea.

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    What if the offender is an atheist? For this reason, I believe that this is unconstitutional. Community service? OK, that is good, but not something where the government is uncontitutionally forcing religion down someone's throat. Let the offender bust bricks or something instead.

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    So atheists are incapable of performing community service through a church? Is it that they melt in water and don't cast a reflection, or does god send thunder and lightning when an atheist steps on 501c3 property?

    No one said they had to practice any religion. They broke a law and Big Bro is giving them the option of serving hours at a local church, probably close to their home and/or child's school, instead of jail. What's not to like?

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    So atheists are incapable of performing community service through a church?...
    why can't they have a secular option?

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    So atheists are incapable of performing community service through a church? Is it that they melt in water and don't cast a reflection, or does god send thunder and lightning when an atheist steps on 501c3 property?

    No one said they had to practice any religion. They broke a law and Big Bro is giving them the option of serving hours at a local church, probably close to their home and/or child's school, instead of jail. What's not to like?
    How do you feel about your tax dollars going to the benefit of Muslim mosques in cases where inmates make a mosque their choice?

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    requiring a convict go to jail OR go to Church, advances religion, hence violates the second Lemon test.
    Have you ever heard of the word CHOICE? Nobody is requiring anyone to go to church. Do you even know what the hell it is you are arguing or you just like to see yourself type?

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Have you ever heard of the word CHOICE? Nobody is requiring anyone to go to church. Do you even know what the hell it is you are arguing or you just like to see yourself type?
    the felon has a choice: go to church every Sunday for a year, or be in jail every day for a year.

    without a secular alternative to a Christian Church on Sunday, this ruling violates the Establishment Clause of our Constitution, a document frequently waved around by Conservatives as holy.

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    why can't they have a secular option?
    Those already exist. They always have, and show no sign of ever disappearing. Inmates at the junk yard, or clearing out the Hills, or picking up trash on the highway....etc.

    Why aren't you crying fro all the theists who are forced to serve through those atheist options instead of a religious option?

    Also, if the only church in the aria who has a qualifying community service program happens to be a Baptist church, Lutherans and Catholics are going to hate it even more than any atheist, so don't pretend atheists are some poor picked on minority.

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    How do you feel about your tax dollars going to the benefit of Muslim mosques in cases where inmates make a mosque their choice?
    oh, if a judge gave a Muslim felon such an option, the cries of "Sharia Law!!!" would be heard around the Globe.

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Those already exist....
    not in this case. in this case, there is NO secular alternative to jail-time.

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    How do you feel about your tax dollars going to the benefit of Muslim mosques in cases where inmates make a mosque their choice?
    I don't pay taxes.

    I haven't paid taxes in years.

    Yes I file every year, but I'm part of the population who gets back more then we pay in, and shortly I'll be in a combat zone, so that's another tax-free year.

    But how do I fee about your taxes supporting mosques? With this sort of program, I'm ok with it.

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