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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    ..Depending on the specifics, I would pick the church over jail time. I know more about Christianity than most Christians so I could easily fit in, plus the Divine is my best friend
    of course you would any criminal would.

    freedom for 6 days a week while sitting in church for 2 hours on Sunday.......or going to jail for a year???

    this ruling is a joke and will be tossed out in State court.

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It's a choice, they can chose jail or church. I see nothing wrong with this, infact it would be a good thing.

    Criminals chosing church would save the state money but not jailing them, it would also open up cells for inmates who committed more atrocious crimes. There is no downside to this, if a criminal doesn't want to do it they can chose jail.
    The "it's a choice" part would be fine, IF there were other options that were equivalent. As it stands there is 1 choice to get the charges dropped (go to church) -this choice is severely imbalanced. I would be more amenable to this idea if there was a community service path, or a non religious "choice" that had equivalent results.

    This still does not assuage my major issue with this, specifically that this creates a group of people who now basically get an annual free pass to commit a misdemeanor.
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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    volunteering involves participation, attending church does not.
    Making someone sit in a church and listen to a sermon is participation, even if its less active role than aborting fetuses. Nonetheless, I have an ever better counter. How about the judge orders you visit a particularly depraved gay leather club. You won't have to join in, but you do have to attend the weekly orgies. Still voluntary and fair?

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    volunteering involves participation, attending church does not.
    there is passive participation and active participation.

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    what if the guy is an atheist?
    He has a secular option.
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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    He has a secular option.
    Not one that is not discriminatory if someone who is religious has the option of just continuing on with their normal life as if they did nothing wrong while he has to go to jail or endure a violation of his right to not have religion forced upon him just because he doesn't have religious beliefs to begin with. If the two committed the same crime and are basically in the same legal circumstances, they should face the same punishment, a punishment not dependent on what religion they have, if they have religious beliefs at all.
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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    He has a secular option.
    What about a non-secular option that works the same way?
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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    What if the offender is an atheist? For this reason, I believe that this is unconstitutional. Community service? OK, that is good, but not something where the government is uncontitutionally forcing religion down someone's throat. Let the offender bust bricks or something instead.

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    I wouldn't have a problem with this if atheist/secularist convicts would be able to choose to do community service at a public non-profit institution instead.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    The choices should be: Jail, Church every Sunday morning, or the local bar every Friday night.

    That was easy.
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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke
    Not one that is not discriminatory if someone who is religious has the option of just continuing on with their normal life as if they did nothing wrong while he has to go to jail or endure a violation of his right to not have religion forced upon him just because he doesn't have religious beliefs to begin with.
    Would you all shut the hell up about that damned word "force"? There is nothing in this pertaining to force.

    He is given a choice between jail and church. It is not force.

    He has the chance to sit through a man talking. It is not forcing him to practice, nor to follow that religion.

    As I said before, walking into a church does not make you religious. If I walk into a food shelter, does that make me homeless?

    Your argument is ludicrous. Come up with something better and more accurate, meaning not falsely implying "force".

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