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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It is not discrimination if you have a choice.
    It is discrimination because a person who is in a similar situation as me, but who has a different religious belief as me that requires them to attend church once a week, is being offered a punishment that is basically not a punishment at all just due to the difference in our religious beliefs. I would have the very likely potential of being subjected to religious persecution and/or ridicule, at the very least, just due to my lack of established religious beliefs, while this other person is simply allowed to continue with their life as normal because of their established religious beliefs. That is discrimination.
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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    The bottom line is that this is an attempt to control cost and keep people who have committed misdemeanors from turning to hard crime by allowing them the choice to go to a religious service.

    That being said, it's a stupid program because ,as it has been pointed out, almost everyone will choose church over jail. Just throw their ass in jail and leave it at that.
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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Doesn't matter how low those incidents are, as long as at least one person would be getting special treatment just due to their religious views, it is religious discrimination. I'm sure there are plenty of regular church goers who commit plenty of non-violent crimes.
    That might be why they're in Church. To seek forgiveness for their sins, to pray for strength to meet life's challenges and to make them better people..

    What do atheists do to make themselves better people? Just go to jail and hope to find the answers there?

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    and how many times must you be told that it doesn't matter what he meant, only what he actually said?
    Do try to keep up Oscar.

    The entire thread is about what he meant, as what he said was nebulous. If we take his statement literally, criminals must attend a "church" and they must attend on Sunday. This may come as a surprise to you but some religions don't have churches and some religions don't meet on Sundays and some religions don't worship. Taken at his "word" a criminal then given the choice must has his ass in a building called a "church" and he/she must be there on Sundays or said criminal will face contempt charges, jail time and possibly more jail time.










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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    speaking of steaming loads of horse****.

    60% of males in Alabama jails are black, hardly "most" and there are actually more white females in Alabama jails than there are black females.
    Might I suggest a class in numbers theory? When we consider 60% as a comparison it is either "equal", "less" or "most".










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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

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    It is discrimination because a person who is in a similar situation as me, but who has a different religious belief as me that requires them to attend church once a week, is being offered a punishment that is basically not a punishment at all just due to the difference in our religious beliefs.
    You can martyr yourself for your non-religious beliefs and go to jail anyway, just as would have been done without this program. The other miscreant might be an atheist and doesn't want to go to Church either, but can choose it as an alternative. Life is all about choices and you are being offered a couple here. The right one would appear obvious to me, but I don't chose to break laws either.

    I would have the very likely potential of being subjected to religious persecution and/or ridicule,
    As a crook you will have to learn to suck it up.
    at the very least, just due to my lack of established religious beliefs, while this other person is simply allowed to continue with their life as normal because of their established religious beliefs. That is discrimination.
    Do the crime, do the time. Don't whine about it when you get caught breaking the law. That's a poor way to start a criminal career.

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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It is discrimination because a person who is in a similar situation as me, but who has a different religious belief as me that requires them to attend church once a week, is being offered a punishment that is basically not a punishment at all just due to the difference in our religious beliefs. I would have the very likely potential of being subjected to religious persecution and/or ridicule, at the very least, just due to my lack of established religious beliefs, while this other person is simply allowed to continue with their life as normal because of their established religious beliefs. That is discrimination.
    you must have attended some really lousy churches in your life. since you seem to be fixated on being persecuted and ridiculed. I have attended baptist churches, catholic churches, black missionary baptist churches, greek orthodox churches, mormon churches, mosques and never, ever, not a single freakin time was I persecuted or ridiculed.

    however, I am sure I would've been received differently if I had made an ass of myself and stood up and told them they were full of **** because they didn't believe the way i believe
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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Might I suggest a class in numbers theory? When we consider 60% as a comparison it is either "equal", "less" or "most".
    wrong, more =/= most in the context you were using "most" , sorry
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    Re: Serve Time In Jail...Or In Church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    ah, and the racist lies begin.

    care to back up this ignorance?
    Oscar just did.

    Or are you saying that blacks are the minority in Alabama jails and prisons?










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