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    Re: Americans Express Historic Negativity Toward U.S. Government

    what many people are mad about is that there is less and less of an opportunity for a middle class lifestyle for the average citizen. the import and borrow for "cheap" goods model has failed.

    any free trade agreement has to ensure that the partner is manufacturing under the same standards as US manufacturing. that means OSHA and pollution controls. non-compliant goods should be allowed in, but a hefty tariff should be added. we should export humane worker safety standards.

    the other big piece of our policy that has failed is the imported energy model. this is simply unsustainable, and the amount of money we have to spend to maintain access to oil is incredible. replacing it should be a top priority.

    part of what holds our society together is the American dream. when this becomes an illusion, that's one thing. when it becomes utterly unattainable to the average citizen who does not have a network, it becomes a real danger. when one can't even plan to retire and has kids coming home dependent on them until they are in their 30s because of an utter lack of good jobs and the kid has enough college debt that getting married and starting a family is unaffordable, that's a serious problem. and it's a problem that no amount of cheap TVs at Walmart will placate.
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    Re: Americans Express Historic Negativity Toward U.S. Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    the other big piece of our policy that has failed is the imported energy model. this is simply unsustainable, and the amount of money we have to spend to maintain access to oil is incredible. replacing it should be a top priority.
    This is a good point. Let us not forget that the economy (regardless of the tax rate) was in a fairly decent position until people started having to pay $4 a gallon. People had money to spend which therefore stimulated the economy naturally.

    How do we fix our government is the question. Allowing people to decide how the government operates (as it should be now) would be the ideal method for most people, but what do we do now that the majority of the public is so education deficient especially when it comes to what our government does and how it does it? One thing is for sure, we will go to civil war in this country if something is not done about the power the government has over the people and how it is negatively affecting everything we do on a global scale.

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    Re: Americans Express Historic Negativity Toward U.S. Government

    Labeling manufacturing corporations as greedy, and chasing them off as though this country can sustain itself as a pure consumption based society has failed. We need to unchain business. We won't get that with the class warfare Obama is spewing.

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    Re: Americans Express Historic Negativity Toward U.S. Government

    I'll let cooler heads prevail. The last time Americans got pissed as a collective and went to the ballot box, they elected a hyper-liberal black man with about 17 minutes of experience as a United States Senator as leader of the free world.

    If that's the result of our righteous indignation, I'd rather just sit on my thumbs.

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    Re: Americans Express Historic Negativity Toward U.S. Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I'll let cooler heads prevail. The last time Americans got pissed as a collective and went to the ballot box, they elected a hyper-liberal black man with about 17 minutes of experience as a United States Senator as leader of the free world.

    If that's the result of our righteous indignation, I'd rather just sit on my thumbs.

    I hear ya. Unfortunately, unless we think that we can afford 4 more years of this liar, then we must vote.

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    Re: Americans Express Historic Negativity Toward U.S. Government

    No matter how many times you "throw out the bums," Americans are still going to be upset at government, a decent chunk of which is as a result of misunderstanding and fickle attitudes toward solutions to problems.
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    Re: Americans Express Historic Negativity Toward U.S. Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    No matter how many times you "throw out the bums," Americans are still going to be upset at government, a decent chunk of which is as a result of misunderstanding and fickle attitudes toward solutions to problems.

    Solutions actually have to work to be called a solution don't they? I mean I think Americans are getting of being lied to by this guy.

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    Re: Americans Express Historic Negativity Toward U.S. Government

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Solutions actually have to work to be called a solution don't they? I mean I think Americans are getting of being lied to by this guy.

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    "This guy," meaning, the President? Well, I am not shy in saying I am looking at the GOP this time around. As for government as a whole, including the congress, I am far less satisfied with the standard line about how government is broken.
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    Re: Americans Express Historic Negativity Toward U.S. Government

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    I hear ya. Unfortunately, unless we think that we can afford 4 more years of this liar, then we must vote.

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    Re: Americans Express Historic Negativity Toward U.S. Government

    I think incumbent Senators and Representatives may find themselves without a job in 2012 - especially GOPs who currently have approval ratings in the single digits in several polls. As for Obama, if the GOP nominates somebody that is moderate, Obama may well get sent home by the anti-incumbent vote. However, the extremists in the GOP will likely not let them run a moderate and that will result in many in the US either staying home because they don't want either candidate or the people disapproving of the far-right holding their nose and voting for Obama just to keep them out of office.
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