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    Re: Florida GOP sweats over Social Security

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Now if a person never worked thus never put a dime into SS, what SS benefits do they get.
    they can get ssi benefits, but fica taxes do not fund that portion of SS.

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    Re: Florida GOP sweats over Social Security

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    they can get ssi benefits, but fica taxes do not fund that portion of SS.
    OK, then who funds that portion of SS?
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    Re: Florida GOP sweats over Social Security

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    they can get ssi benefits, but fica taxes do not fund that portion of SS.
    Interesting. However, spouses who have never paid into the system are entitled to SS benefits beginning at age 62. Widows who have never paid into the system are entitled to SS benefits beginning at age 60.

    Children of deceased or disabled workers:

    Within a family, a child may receive up to one-half of the parent’s full retirement or disability benefit, or 75 percent of the deceased parent’s basic Social Security benefit. However, there is a limit to the amount of money that can be paid to a family. The family maximum payment is determined as part of every Social Security benefit computation and can be from 150 to 180 percent of the parent’s full benefit amount. If the total amount payable to all family members exceeds this limit, each person’s benefit is reduced proportionately (except the parent’s) until the total equals the maximum allowable amount.
    (To age 18 if not in school; to age 19 if enrolled.) Disabled children will continue getting SS benefits for life.
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    Re: Florida GOP sweats over Social Security

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Now if a person never worked thus never put a dime into SS, what SS benefits do they get.
    This should help you

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    Re: Florida GOP sweats over Social Security

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    OK, then who funds that portion of SS?
    please google it yourself. thanks.

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    Re: Florida GOP sweats over Social Security

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Interesting. However, spouses who have never paid into the system are entitled to SS benefits beginning at age 62. Widows who have never paid into the system are entitled to SS benefits beginning at age 60.

    Children of deceased or disabled workers:



    (To age 18 if not in school; to age 19 if enrolled.) Disabled children will continue getting SS benefits for life.
    does a spouse of a living recipient get benefits?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Florida GOP sweats over Social Security

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    I'm sure we would have just accepted the losses in the stock market crash and told seniors tough cookies. Lol
    Remind me to never ask you for investment advice.
    Considering that a senior should never have the majority of their funds in shares but rather safe, fixed income securities.
    Which is what the vast majority of target retirement funds do when someone closely approaches retirement.

    See this people, investment ignorance rules the day, for this debate.
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    Re: Florida GOP sweats over Social Security

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    they can get ssi benefits, but fica taxes do not fund that portion of SS.
    Do you know how ****ty SSI is?
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    Re: Florida GOP sweats over Social Security

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    please google it yourself. thanks.
    Got it, it's funded by the tax payer, which those benefits that are not funded by FICA is nothing more than Welfare. Those benefits funded by FICA is measured by the amount you put in. So if you draw SS funded by FICA you were in the working pool, if you receive benefits from the tax payer your on Welfare.
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    Re: Florida GOP sweats over Social Security

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    a huge copayment on all medicare starting at $300?

    now, i'm not a nuclear physicist, but as i look at the amount of money that is spent on medicare.... and I compare that to the sum of $300.... the word that springs into my mind is not "huge". irrespective, prices for medicare-covered services need to rise.

    incidentally, did you say that your source for this was a friend said his doctor told him - as opposed to actually being able to cite it?
    It isnt the 300 per person cpwill its that every single cut in ryans plan was a middleclass or cut for the poor..and then HUGE tax cuts for the richest americans and corporations...thats why it failed...i went to a town hall meeting with my congressman when he was trying to "SELL" the ryan plan...he got brutalized..
    by mere questions that he floundered trying to answer...he had one more town hall to sell it...got hammered again...and gave it up

    Ryan was either a fool or he had not intention of trying to get it to pass and it was a just rhetoric to feed the far right greedy nutter teapartists feeding frenzy.
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