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    Re: Obama allowing states to opt out of education reform requirements

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    States could have always opt-out of NCLB...but they would lose tens of millions in education aid.
    that aid should never have been taken from the taxpayers in the first place, it should have stayed in the states



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    Re: Obama allowing states to opt out of education reform requirements

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    ok, prove it. how is the NEA related to NCLB?
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    Re: Obama allowing states to opt out of education reform requirements

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    To be fair GWB based NCLB on education reform he passed in Texas. It may have been good for Texas, actually - I don't know. But it's definitely wasn't good for the nation as a whole.

    NCLB is another example of that - legislation that may be good for a single state but disastrous for the nation as a whole.
    Unsure myself of what NCLB was modeled on but it almost does not matter. Assuming it was a model of what was done in Texas at the time and had some level of success I'd still question what the success measurement was. If it was purely test score increases then I'd say the same thing I say about NCLB, they were able to teach the test well. I tend to look at this another way though, assuming it worked in Texas and failed at the national level... would that not be a great example of why we should just repeal the act then dismiss the entire Federal Department of Education and put this back to the states where it belongs? Think of the savings alone but more so think of the potential for the states to put back on track what the Federal level failed miserably at.
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    Re: Obama allowing states to opt out of education reform requirements

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I thought he was talking about the NEA......aka National Endowment for the Arts. A favorite target of conservatives and other extremists.

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    Re: Obama allowing states to opt out of education reform requirements

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I thought he was talking about the NEA......aka National Endowment for the Arts. A favorite target of conservatives and other extremists.
    No one believes that claim



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    Re: Obama allowing states to opt out of education reform requirements

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Unsure myself of what NCLB was modeled on but it almost does not matter. Assuming it was a model of what was done in Texas at the time and had some level of success I'd still question what the success measurement was. If it was purely test score increases then I'd say the same thing I say about NCLB, they were able to teach the test well. I tend to look at this another way though, assuming it worked in Texas and failed at the national level... would that not be a great example of why we should just repeal the act then dismiss the entire Federal Department of Education and put this back to the states where it belongs? Think of the savings alone but more so think of the potential for the states to put back on track what the Federal level failed miserably at.
    No. Just because one type of educational reform does not work on the national level does not mean we should not get rid of the Department of Education. Rather, it means the Department of Education needs to institute policies that are capable of working on the national level.

    Personally, I'd rather the ED be used to help coordinate administration policies across the states and to help coordinate education policies across multiple states.
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    Re: Obama allowing states to opt out of education reform requirements

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    No one believes that claim
    really? you speak for the entire forum?


    guess what? my claim is 100% factual.
    Last edited by Thunder; 09-25-11 at 12:27 AM.

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    Re: Obama allowing states to opt out of education reform requirements

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    No one believes that claim
    You mean when he asked about the National Endowment for the Arts, you thought he was talking about something else?
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    Re: Obama allowing states to opt out of education reform requirements

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You mean when he asked about the National Endowment for the Arts, you thought he was talking about something else?
    More obfuscation

    when we are talking about education and the NEA is brought up its pretty obvious

    it would be akin to a discussion on gun laws and thunder claiming the NRA means the National Recovery Act under FDR



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    Re: Obama allowing states to opt out of education reform requirements

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    More obfuscation

    when we are talking about education and the NEA is brought up its pretty obvious..
    guess what? I haven't heard of the National Education Association discussed in years.

    they aren't really in the news.

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