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    Re: Breaking News: Herman Cain Wins Florida Presidential Straw Poll, Rick Perry 2nd

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No, like he was a state legislator for seven years and a U.S. Senator for two years, and the President of the United Stated for 2 1/2 years. Like that.
    And that makes him a good president, not hardly, look at his failures.
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    Re: Breaking News: Herman Cain Wins Florida Presidential Straw Poll, Rick Perry 2nd

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I did not vote for Obama.Of course I didn't vote for McCain either. A lib and a RINO doesn't seem like much of a choice.



    A business record won't tell us what he will do when he is office. Although since he is a business man there is the chance he might come up with acronyms that will sell more American jobs to foreign countries and some other unpatriotic activities.
    Maybe but you can keep Obama which is a known failure.
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    Re: Breaking News: Herman Cain Wins Florida Presidential Straw Poll, Rick Perry 2nd

    It's sad I always have to remind people of this but I'll go ahead anyway

    John McCain was the most marginal candidate in the last election. It was all about Giuliani and Thompson striking each other in the debates. Huckabee and Romney were the underdogs. McCain and Paul were out of the picture... McCain had something like a .7% approval rating in 2007.

    In elections like these, polls don't mean a damn thing. Perry and Bachmann won't make it because they are nuts, and while the GOP has its problems it won't nominate individuals as unelectable as them. Maybe back in 2000 when conditions were in place for Bush, but not right now... not against Obama. Santorum has never spent a day out of government, and honestly doesn't look Presidential. Romney and Huntsman are mormons and not part of the Tea Party, making them absent from two very key constituents.

    It's Gingrich, Paul and Cain to me. I'm rooting for Cain big time and think him and Paul should be a ticket, but Gingrich is okay too. Cain is so strong because he is a businessman, appeals to the base but also is moderate enough to garner outside votes, and of course it must be mentioned that he is African-American

    He is the strongest candidate in this pool
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    Re: Breaking News: Herman Cain Wins Florida Presidential Straw Poll, Rick Perry 2nd

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I did not vote for Obama.Of course I didn't vote for McCain either. A lib and a RINO doesn't seem like much of a choice.
    A war hero versus a community organizer, easy choice for me.

    McCain sold himself out to the right's nutjobs, it's telling it didn't get him anywhere. He should've run on his 2000 platform and distanced himself from Bush, then he would've had something of a chance



    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesrage
    A business record won't tell us what he will do when he is office. Although since he is a business man there is the chance he might come up with acronyms that will sell more American jobs to foreign countries and some other unpatriotic activities.
    Someone who thinks free trade is unpatriotic is a RINO. Free trade has been Republican doctrine since the Conservative Revolution, and was so irrefutably successful liberals adopted it and free trade became an America's principle delivered around the world

    You do bring up a good point of the Herminator never holding elected office, but neither did Eisenhower or Washington. Doesn't mean they weren't great Presidents.

    Need I remind you that not everything is about partisan politics
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    Re: Breaking News: Herman Cain Wins Florida Presidential Straw Poll, Rick Perry 2nd

    Quote Originally Posted by Tubub View Post
    It's sad I always have to remind people of this but I'll go ahead anyway

    John McCain was the most marginal candidate in the last election. It was all about Giuliani and Thompson striking each other in the debates. Huckabee and Romney were the underdogs. McCain and Paul were out of the picture... McCain had something like a .7% approval rating in 2007.

    In elections like these, polls don't mean a damn thing. Perry and Bachmann won't make it because they are nuts, and while the GOP has its problems it won't nominate individuals as unelectable as them. Maybe back in 2000 when conditions were in place for Bush, but not right now... not against Obama. Santorum has never spent a day out of government, and honestly doesn't look Presidential. Romney and Huntsman are mormons and not part of the Tea Party, making them absent from two very key constituents.

    It's Gingrich, Paul and Cain to me. I'm rooting for Cain big time and think him and Paul should be a ticket, but Gingrich is okay too. Cain is so strong because he is a businessman, appeals to the base but also is moderate enough to garner outside votes, and of course it must be mentioned that he is African-American

    He is the strongest candidate in this pool

    I agreed with the first half of your post...but your picks I believe are dead wrong....gingrich paul or caine none will win the primary imho

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    Re: Breaking News: Herman Cain Wins Florida Presidential Straw Poll, Rick Perry 2nd

    Quote Originally Posted by Tubub View Post
    A war hero versus a community organizer, easy choice for me.

    McCain sold himself out to the right's nutjobs, it's telling it didn't get him anywhere. He should've run on his 2000 platform and distanced himself from Bush, then he would've had something of a chance




    Someone who thinks free trade is unpatriotic is a RINO. Free trade has been Republican doctrine since the Conservative Revolution, and was so irrefutably successful liberals adopted it and free trade became an America's principle delivered around the world

    You do bring up a good point of the Herminator never holding elected office, but neither did Eisenhower or Washington. Doesn't mean they weren't great Presidents.

    Need I remind you that not everything is about partisan politics
    What are your thoughts about Hermain Cain:

    1- Against Congress Auditing the Federal Reserve.
    2- Former Federal Reserve Chairman
    2- Supported Tarp
    3- Was involved in illegal actions when on the Aquila Board of Directors defrauding millions of dollars in stock from the Aquila shareholders.
    4- Admits his own Economic Recovery plan can't work
    5- "I think that the PATRIOT Act is about 90 percent right on."
    6- Supported Mitt Rommey in 2008. (Yes, this is bad if you checked Mitt in 08) (Was based solely on business experience....) :3
    7- Has No Plan for Afghanistan till he gets into office / Supportive of Afghan War
    8- Supported Iraq War (opposes any timetable for withdrawal, arguing it to be equivalent to surrender.)
    9- (Depends on your views) Against legalizing Same-sex marriage, Supports Defense of Marriage Act.
    10- 9/9/9 = sale tax would skyrocket



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    Re: Breaking News: Herman Cain Wins Florida Presidential Straw Poll, Rick Perry 2nd

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No, like he was a state legislator for seven years and a U.S. Senator for two years, and the President of the United Stated for 2 1/2 years. Like that.
    He still has no record of accomplishments, just division and obstructionism unless you do what he wants, oh and a perfect record of "Blaming Bush" !
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    Re: Breaking News: Herman Cain Wins Florida Presidential Straw Poll, Rick Perry 2nd

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonxe View Post
    What are your thoughts about Hermain Cain:

    1- Against Congress Auditing the Federal Reserve.
    2- Former Federal Reserve Chairman
    2- Supported Tarp
    3- Was involved in illegal actions when on the Aquila Board of Directors defrauding millions of dollars in stock from the Aquila shareholders.
    4- Admits his own Economic Recovery plan can't work
    5- "I think that the PATRIOT Act is about 90 percent right on."
    6- Supported Mitt Rommey in 2008. (Yes, this is bad if you checked Mitt in 08) (Was based solely on business experience....) :3
    7- Has No Plan for Afghanistan till he gets into office / Supportive of Afghan War
    8- Supported Iraq War (opposes any timetable for withdrawal, arguing it to be equivalent to surrender.)
    9- (Depends on your views) Against legalizing Same-sex marriage, Supports Defense of Marriage Act.
    10- 9/9/9 = sale tax would skyrocket
    1 - Can you list the # of times the Federal Reserve has been audited?
    2 - That's an appointed job. Not sure about the significance of it.
    2 - He supported TARP before he found out how they were going to implement it.
    3 - Let us know when the trial begins.
    4 - No big deal. Had to do with timing.
    5 - He is probably correct. The percentage might be only 89%, but 90% is close enough.
    6 - I would have preferred Romney over McCain.
    7 - He want to speak to the generals first. That's fine with me.
    8 - Okay.
    9 - Cool.
    10 - It will go up, but income taxes come down.

    Wow! I think we need to take Cain to the gallows and hang him for such things as shown by someone biased against Cain. Hang 'Em High!

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    Re: Breaking News: Herman Cain Wins Florida Presidential Straw Poll, Rick Perry 2nd

    Ack! It was posted twice.

    And you never answer my questions. How rude!
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    Re: Breaking News: Herman Cain Wins Florida Presidential Straw Poll, Rick Perry 2nd

    I was quite supportive for Cain, till he screwed up in May/June with his Muslim comment, and failed his debate. I kind of assumed that he had no chance after that.

    I much rather see Herman Cain as President than Mitt Romney or Rick Perry.

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