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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    I hope you are right, BB. I was hoping for input from the medical professionals all over this forum, and I wasn't disappointed. I'm glad it has been over-hyped from that news article, and maybe there is not a whole lot to it. I always looked at Primatine Mist being the last resort if I was caught without a rescue inhaler. Then again, you can't beat piping hot tea or coffee when you're in a real jam, especially when you leave the inhaler at home.
    Especially coffee as caffeine include trace amounts of theophylline - although you would probably have to drink Starbucks dry to get any real relief from the trace amounts
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Did you miss the title of this thread then? Also several other similar bits of scaremongering nonsense on the same theme on other sites?
    Did I miss the title? It's my title.

    Thread: EPA to ban affordable inhalers? Now, is it true that the more affordable inhalers are being banned or not?

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by bowerbird View Post
    Like there is 200 million asthmatics worldwide and about 300 million COPD sufferers who were using CFC's - the question still remains - if all the other countries have swapped over why is it costing America so much? Although Wiki gives us some clues - as well as a heads up that this might only be temporary
    Thanks, so I don't see what the big deal would be since we've waited this long to have put this off until the patents run out and not have so many financially affected even it isn't a long time.

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Thanks, so I don't see what the big deal would be since we've waited this long to have put this off until the patents run out and not have so many financially affected even it isn't a long time.
    It is just an observation but I have noticed a tendency of the media in America, particularly the right leaning media to "play the victim role". Some of that is blame shifting i.e. why is it that Americans pay more for drugs - the answer is not "because big pharma are gouging you" but "because America subsidises the rest of the world". Some of this is Big pharma playing on the inherent tendencies of people to want to show themselves as victims and thus deflect suspicion away from obscene levels of profits,
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by bowerbird View Post
    It is just an observation but I have noticed a tendency of the media in America, particularly the right leaning media to "play the victim role". Some of that is blame shifting i.e. why is it that Americans pay more for drugs - the answer is not "because big pharma are gouging you" but "because America subsidises the rest of the world". Some of this is Big pharma playing on the inherent tendencies of people to want to show themselves as victims and thus deflect suspicion away from obscene levels of profits,
    Some of it is because we subsidise the rest of the world. Many positions are not addressed by one simple point. The obscene level of profits would be spread around if the U.S. wasn't subsidising them.

    That we could wait the short time until generics are available would at least curb some of the obscene profits.

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Reagan signed a treaty to lower CFC emissions. The removal of CFC propelled inhalers was done to meet treaty requirements.
    CFC inhalers were exempt from the ban. It was Clinton who removed the exemption. The ban went into effect, at least on RX albuterol inhalers, on 1-1-09, although they started phasing the new inhalers in before that. People were hoarding the old ones like crazy. It was very upsetting because this is the type of inhaler me and one of my children use and the new inhalers just aren't as effective. They are also more costly and, frustratingly, they're not very "green". These new inhalers come sealed in foil and once you open the foil the instructions are to discard them after 12 months, even if they're still half full and haven't reached their expiration date. The old albuterol inhalers lasted much longer because you could use them until the expiration date. We definitely go through more of the non-CFC inhalers because of this.

    It really makes me mad because I feel these were political decisions made about something that should be strictly medical.

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by bowerbird View Post
    Especially coffee as caffeine include trace amounts of theophylline - although you would probably have to drink Starbucks dry to get any real relief from the trace amounts
    I tend to avoid Starbucks, but I actually think it's the fumes coming up from the extremely hot beverage. It's like a vaporizer. I do possess a home Nebulizer, if things get extreme at night, but that too is a last resort because of the way it leaves me afterwards, ovely giddy and then can't sleep. I pretend I'm smoking dope through a hookah. I figure that's the closest I will ever get to a hookah by prescription.

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by bowerbird View Post
    It is just an observation but I have noticed a tendency of the media in America, particularly the right leaning media to "play the victim role". Some of that is blame shifting i.e. why is it that Americans pay more for drugs - the answer is not "because big pharma are gouging you" but "because America subsidises the rest of the world". Some of this is Big pharma playing on the inherent tendencies of people to want to show themselves as victims and thus deflect suspicion away from obscene levels of profits,
    I hate to admit that, but you are correct regarding the American right-winged media. They tend to put an eye-catching title on the news story, which has nothing to do with the actual story. For example, over the weekend, I saw a headline which said that Obama was urging blacks to fight. Of course, it sucked me in, and all the article said was that he was urging them to get out and vote like they did the last time. Unfortunately, all media outlets, regardless of their political affiliation practice those deceitful tactics.

    I agree regarding Americans paying way too much for drugs. Perhaps, we should all buy our drugs from Australia.

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Did I miss the title? It's my title.

    Thread: EPA to ban affordable inhalers? Now, is it true that the more affordable inhalers are being banned or not?
    I also put up a similar thread in the Health section which I had merged with this one. When I posted mine, I was concerned from a medical standpoint and was hoping for input from the medical professionals who post here, and I have not been disappointed because I have obtained some useful information.

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dix View Post
    CFC inhalers were exempt from the ban. It was Clinton who removed the exemption. The ban went into effect, at least on RX albuterol inhalers, on 1-1-09, although they started phasing the new inhalers in before that. People were hoarding the old ones like crazy. It was very upsetting because this is the type of inhaler me and one of my children use and the new inhalers just aren't as effective. They are also more costly and, frustratingly, they're not very "green". These new inhalers come sealed in foil and once you open the foil the instructions are to discard them after 12 months, even if they're still half full and haven't reached their expiration date. The old albuterol inhalers lasted much longer because you could use them until the expiration date. We definitely go through more of the non-CFC inhalers because of this.

    It really makes me mad because I feel these were political decisions made about something that should be strictly medical.
    Yeah, I have noticed that you can't seem to get the blue inhalers anymore. Instead they substitute the ones in the orange dispensers, which when you use them, you're not sure you're even getting a dosage. I do taste the stuff, though. Fortunately, it takes years for me to go through one, since I seldom need them. Having the allergy shots really helped me a lot, but the drawback when I took the shots was being exposed to all the sick people in the Allergist's office. Since I have stopped the shots, I get sick, less. When I do get an upper respiratory ailment, it really makes it difficult to breathe so I have a supply of Medrol at hand. Of course, I don't follow the doctor's prescribed method of taking it. I will take one tablet a day for about 2 days, and then I won't take anymore. Medrol is described as generic Prednisone, but you don't have to go through the same treatment regimen prescribed for Prednisone.

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