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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Please tell me this is just hyperbole and not really the EPA's position.

    Asthma patients who rely on over-the-counter inhalers will need to switch to prescription-only alternatives as part of the federal government's latest attempt to protect the Earth's atmosphere.
    The Food and Drug Administration said Thursday patients who use the epinephrine inhalers to treat mild asthma will need to switch by Dec. 31 to other types that do not contain chlorofluorocarbons, an aerosol substance once found in a variety of spray products.
    The action is part of an agreement signed by the U.S. and other nations to stop using substances that deplete the ozone layer, a region in the atmosphere that helps block harmful ultraviolet rays from the Sun.
    But the switch to a greener inhaler will cost consumers more. Epinephrine inhalers are available via online retailers for around $20, whereas the alternatives, which contain the drug albuterol, range from $30 to $60.


    We couldn't make this other type of inhalers available over the counter? I thought this administrations position was in making health care more affordable.

    Obama Administration to Ban Asthma Inhalers Over Environmental Concerns | The Weekly Standard
    Are you only just getting around to this NOW?? We got rid of CFC's YEARS ago!

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...-inhalers.html
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by tcmartin10 View Post
    Well that is something I do not like about Pharmaceuticals companies. They receive all kinds of grants and government aid, they should pay atleast some of it back. But I guess they do with taxes on their products.
    Since America is lagging the rest of the world on this there should be no excuse for the price hike
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Our country routinely ignores treaties for the sake of its own interests. I don't think CFC inhalers are causing that much damage to the environment, given that major CFC sources have been phased out of our society.

    It disturbs me greatly how even agencies that have nothing to do with the medical sector pay lip service to the pharmaceutical industry. The lobbying and corporate infiltration is systemic.

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    Obama Administration Set to Ban Asthma Inhalers

    Asthma patients who rely on over-the-counter inhalers will need to switch to prescription-only alternatives as part of the federal government's latest attempt to protect the Earth's atmosphere.
    The Food and Drug Administration said Thursday patients who use the epinephrine inhalers to treat mild asthma will need to switch by Dec. 31 to other types that do not contain chlorofluorocarbons, an aerosol substance once found in a variety of spray products.
    The action is part of an agreement signed by the U.S. and other nations to stop using substances that deplete the ozone layer, a region in the atmosphere that helps block harmful ultraviolet rays from the Sun.
    But the switch to a greener inhaler will cost consumers more. Epinephrine inhalers are available via online retailers for around $20, whereas the alternatives, which contain the drug albuterol, range from $30 to $60.
    I have really bad asthma that has been under control by my intake of a steroid inhaler called Symbicort. I also take an Albuterol rescue inhaler wherever I go. I have noticed remarkable results with Symbicort, whereas my previous inhaler, Advair stopped working for me. It looks like the Obama administration has deemed that I and all the rest of the asthma sufferers must die in order to save the environment. Gee, I didn't know I would be forced to fall upon my sword for all this. I smell Cass Sundstein in the works, here.

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    Re: Obama Administration Set to Ban Asthma Inhalers

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    I have really bad asthma that has been under control by my intake of a steroid inhaler called Symbicort. I also take an Albuterol rescue inhaler wherever I go. I have noticed remarkable results with Symbicort, whereas my previous inhaler, Advair stopped working for me. It looks like the Obama administration has deemed that I and all the rest of the asthma sufferers must die in order to save the environment. Gee, I didn't know I would be forced to fall upon my sword for all this. I smell Cass Sundstein in the works, here.
    Assuming you're under a doctor's care in some way and can get a prescription, it looks like it shouldn't be a problem.

    I thought Symbicort was prescription only anyway. I could be wrong.


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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Yes - I am suspicious. Highly suspicious. Does that seem over the top?

    This is the same chemical that is used in your air-conditioner (freon) - same stuff. You think it's safe to inhale this intentionally and directly?

    According ot this study done the alternative means of propellant increase the rate of absorption and thus would require less dosage. Pharmacokinetics of chlorofluorocarbon and hydrofluoroalkane metered-dose inhaler formulations of beclomethasone dipropionate

    If my children used inhalers I would have switched over (and likely I would have known about this from the start and just sidestepped it completely)
    And yet you seem totally willing to accept hydrofluoralkane shooting into a kid's lungs. I'm just taking a wild guess that you have no idea how dangerous either chemical is to breathe in. (CFC's, incidentally, are a wide range of chemicals. The substance in the inhaler is not freon) I have no idea either.

    Food for thought: CFCs have been used for ages in inhalers. You'd think somebody would have noticed health problems by now if there were any, right?
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    I'm an asthmatic and when they EPA went full retard and decided to ban CFC inhalers the price of inhalers went up. I also think that they don't work as well (just my opinion having used both of the inhalers). It was unnecessary.

    Also to the OP though. To my knowledge there are no OTC asthma rescue inhalers. I cannot support making albuterol or other inhalers OTC. They need to stay prescription only and a patient's asthma needs to be monitored by a physician. Also, just because something goes OTC does not mean it will become cheaper. For many people keeping medications prescription only saves them money because they can run the medication through their insurance.
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I'm an asthmatic and when they EPA went full retard and decided to ban CFC inhalers the price of inhalers went up. I also think that they don't work as well (just my opinion having used both of the inhalers). It was unnecessary.

    Also to the OP though. To my knowledge there are no OTC asthma rescue inhalers. I cannot support making albuterol or other inhalers OTC. They need to stay prescription only and a patient's asthma needs to be monitored by a physician. Also, just because something goes OTC does not mean it will become cheaper. For many people keeping medications prescription only saves them money because they can run the medication through their insurance.
    The EPA didn't ban CFC inhalers, it was the FDA and was done according to treaty obligations. The price when up because some complete BS that put HFA's back under patent, so there were no generics available. It was necessary, as a minor inconvenience for asthmatics is frankly worth the cost for avoiding UV exposure.

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    Re: Obama Administration Set to Ban Asthma Inhalers

    The ban applies only to epinephrine inhalers with a cfc propellant. It is an OTC product called Primatine Mist. Your fears are unfounded, stoked by the GOP misinformation network.

    ...And the original agreement regarding the withdrawal was signed by Ronnie Reagan himself, not the Obama admin.
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