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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by tcmartin10 View Post
    The last 2 sentences make sense for companies. It costs A LOT of money for them to create new drugs. They have to pay for research, scientist's salaries, FDA testing and more.
    Government helps with research quite a bit. You might look up teaching institutions and their contrabution to research.

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Was just doing a bit of reading about what is replacing the CFC based epinephrin*e inhalers in other countries - hydrofluoroalkane (HFA) based epinephrin*e inhalers. This is the propellant Big Pharm switched to in its more lucrative products. Seems the FDA has been dragging it feet on approving the HFA inhalers for US use - not surprising considering the FDA lives in Big Pharm's pocket.
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You know, sometimes the government responds to what somebody else tells them.

    Like, when the entire scientific community goes "Whoah crap we need to stop using these like pronto."

    Are you calling Reagan a "big government" type? He signed the treaty, dude.



    You can prove that it does?



    So.. you're suspicious of essentially every aspect of modern medicine? Do you have any specific reason to believe that tiny doses of CFCs in an inhaler would have direct health impacts or is it just more of a general "omg it's a chemical" thing?
    Yes - I am suspicious. Highly suspicious. Does that seem over the top?

    This is the same chemical that is used in your air-conditioner (freon) - same stuff. You think it's safe to inhale this intentionally and directly?

    According ot this study done the alternative means of propellant increase the rate of absorption and thus would require less dosage. Pharmacokinetics of chlorofluorocarbon and hydrofluoroalkane metered-dose inhaler formulations of beclomethasone dipropionate

    If my children used inhalers I would have switched over (and likely I would have known about this from the start and just sidestepped it completely)
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    This is more about Big Pharm wanting to see this low-cost alternative gone than the ozone or EPA. The same company that makes this has switched the propellant in its more expensive inhaled products but not this one. If they can blame the government for this and make it stick, well that's gravy.
    And they would be doing this without the government. Making money is about making money.

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Government helps with research quite a bit. You might look up teaching institutions and their contrabution to research.
    Well that is something I do not like about Pharmaceuticals companies. They receive all kinds of grants and government aid, they should pay atleast some of it back. But I guess they do with taxes on their products.

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by tcmartin10 View Post
    Well that is something I do not like about Pharmaceuticals companies. They receive all kinds of grants and government aid, they should pay atleast some of it back. But I guess they do with taxes on their products.
    They also employ many high paying scientists who are looking for new drugs.

    It is amusing to read the different threads on this site. On one thread folks will bemoan the loss of competitiveness and jobs which has shrunk our middle class. The same thread and many more will then demonize yet another industry.

    It would be interesting to see how many industries have been demonized both here and by this administration and how much of our GDP those industries make up.

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by tcmartin10 View Post
    As long as the inhalers remain affordable I dont see the big deal. But if they expect people to go from a 10 dollar inhaler to a 100 dollar one, that can be a different story. I dont know the price of inhalers btw...
    According to the article it might be $20 to $60 PLUS the cost of a doctors visit. So what would that be? $115 extra?

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    Obama Administration to ban Asthma Inhalers over Environmental Concerns

    first off, it's asthma sufferers own dang fault for not organizing and sending more checks to the Obama 2012 campaign.

    Asthma patients who rely on over-the-counter inhalers will need to switch to prescription-only alternatives as part of the federal government's latest attempt to protect the Earth's atmosphere...

    But the switch to a greener inhaler will cost consumers more. Epinephrine inhalers are available via online retailers for around $20, whereas the alternatives, which contain the drug albuterol, range from $30 to $60...
    oh well, not like poor people ever get asthma, right?

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    Re: Obama Administration to ban Asthma Inhalers over Environmental Concerns

    Edit: (nvm). So this is being force and banning regular pumps? No choice?
    Last edited by jasonxe; 09-24-11 at 02:40 AM.



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    Re: Obama Administration to ban Asthma Inhalers over Environmental Concerns

    So it would seem.

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