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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    CFC's are used as propellant, yeah? And each time you use it some is expelled with the medication.

    So asthma patients have been getting low doses of CFC's and no one's cared or noticed - until this came up?

    This seems quite shocking to me for some reason.
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    More like, being bent over by the government--BOHICA. This is a government regulation, in case you didn't notice.
    The alternative inhalers are only more expensive because the companies making them are gouging us.... in case you didn't notice. There's no reason they should be more expensive.

    CFCs are heavily restricted for very, very good reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    CFC's are used as propellant, yeah? And each time you use it some is expelled with the medication.

    So asthma patients have been getting low doses of CFC's and no one's cared or noticed - until this came up?

    This seems quite shocking to me for some reason.
    The chemicals in the inhaler are not considered a (direct) health risk AFAIK.
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    This is more about Big Pharm wanting to see this low-cost alternative gone than the ozone or EPA. The same company that makes this has switched the propellant in its more expensive inhaled products but not this one. If they can blame the government for this and make it stick, well that's gravy.
    I actually use an inhaler of this type. And this issue has been a pain in my ass for gears already.

    There were originally several manufacturers. Then some interim requirement or temporary stop left shelves empty for like six months, then only primatene returned, and a couple store brand generics that are obviously the same product.

    And don't forget. I not only will have to pay more, I also will have to pay a doctor for a prescription.

    This is an example of why for-profit healthcare is problematic. Because this is clearly about getting more money out of me. NOT providing better quality.
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The alternative inhalers are only more expensive because the companies making them are gouging us.... in case you didn't notice. There's no reason they should be more expensive.

    CFCs are heavily restricted for very, very good reason.
    Because the government told us so? Because of global warming?
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The alternative inhalers are only more expensive because the companies making them are gouging us.... in case you didn't notice. There's no reason they should be more expensive.

    CFCs are heavily restricted for very, very good reason.



    The chemicals in the inhaler are not considered a (direct) health risk AFAIK.
    It just seems like backwards logic to not be concerned when we're discussing people who have a breathing disorder.
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Because the government told us so? Because of global warming?
    No, not because of global warming and not because "the government" told us so.
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    It just seems like backwards logic to not be concerned when we're discussing people who have a breathing disorder.
    You seem to be under the impression that nobody ever bothered to check and see if this was a health risk. They checked.
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I actually use an inhaler of this type. And this issue has been a pain in my ass for gears already.

    There were originally several manufacturers. Then some interim requirement or temporary stop left shelves empty for like six months, then only primatene returned, and a couple store brand generics that are obviously the same product.

    And don't forget. I not only will have to pay more, I also will have to pay a doctor for a prescription.

    This is an example of why for-profit healthcare is problematic. Because this is clearly about getting more money out of me. NOT providing better quality.
    Ever stop to think that it might actually cost more to manufacture the new puffers? Kinda like when the EPA outlawed R12 refigerent and forced us to use 134A, which is three times more expensive.
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ever stop to think that it might actually cost more to manufacture the new puffers? Kinda like when the EPA outlawed R12 refigerent and forced us to use 134A, which is three times more expensive.
    Ever stop to think it might actually not?
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, not because of global warming and not because "the government" told us so.
    Right! I guess that why the government outlawed these kinds of puffers.

    Weren't you asking me about stupid assed government regulations on another thread recently? There ya go.
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