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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    That doesn't even include the doctor visit.

    And, you can't buy several of those at a time.
    Do you not have health care insurance?

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Do you not have health care insurance?
    Yes I do. But I don't see the relevance of your question. Please elaborate.

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Yes I do. But I don't see the relevance of your question. Please elaborate.
    Well, most health insurance plans include either free primary care visits or relatively modest copays, and also include either free or discounted Rx, so I think it's perfectly relevant to question of your cost burden. It may be that the insurance-covered prescription inhalers end up being cheaper than the out-of-pocket, over-the-counter inhalers. At least it would be for me.

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Well, most health insurance plans include either free primary care visits or relatively modest copays, and also include either free or discounted Rx, so I think it's perfectly relevant to question of your cost burden. It may be that the insurance-covered prescription inhalers end up being cheaper than the out-of-pocket, over-the-counter inhalers. At least it would be for me.
    Yes, like nobody is actually having to pay the rest. As long as you don't have to pay it eh?

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    It was Ronnie Reagan who signed up for this, not President Obama.

    From wikipedia...

    "...Letter from Ronald Reagan to the U.S. Senate:
    "THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary For Immediate Release December 21, 1987
    To the Senate of the United States:
    I transmit herewith, for the advice and consent of the Senate to ratification, the Montreal Protocol on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer, done at Montreal on September 16, 1987. The report of the Department of State is also enclosed for the information of the Senate.
    The Montreal Protocol provides for internationally coordinated control of ozone-depleting substances in order to protect public health and the environment from potential adverse effects of depletion of stratospheric ozone. The Protocol was negotiated under the auspices of the United Nations Environment Program, pursuant to the Vienna Convention for the Protection of the Ozone Layer, which was ratified by the United States in August 1986.
    In this historic agreement, the international community undertakes cooperative measures to protect a vital global resource. The United States played a leading role in the negotiation of the Protocol. United States ratification is necessary for entry into force and effective implementation of the Protocol. Early ratification by the United States will encourage similar action by other nations whose participation is also essential.
    I recommend that the Senate give early and favorable consideration to the Protocol and give its advice and consent to ratification.
    Ronald Reagan The White House December 21, 1987" "
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redbeard View Post
    Are you not inhaling the propellant as well?

    A url for the actual text of "The Montreal Protocol on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer", not a condensed version in a newspaper or magazine article. One will noticed a "one liner" ---> 3. Aerosol products, except medical aerosols.

    http://ozone.unep.org/pdfs/Montreal-Protocol2000.pdf

    In this area,
    Albuterol=$48.69
    Advair=$321.69
    Spiriva=$270.69
    Prices may vary according to area.
    Right from Wikipedia:

    There are a few exceptions for "essential uses", where no acceptable substitutes have been found (for example, in the metered dose inhalers commonly used to treat asthma and other respiratory problems[5])
    From the UN website:

    http://ozone.unep.org/Exemption_Info...ecXV-5-USA.pdf
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Yes, like nobody is actually having to pay the rest. As long as you don't have to pay it eh?
    Oh I'm paying for it, in the form of ridiculous insurance premiums. And the insurance company is paying less than I would if I paid it on my own, as they have deals with the pharma companies.

    I'd also add that you generally have to see a doc to get the original prescription, but he or she should specify that the prescription can be refilled x number of times, and they should renew it over the phone after that. If your doctor is making you come in for an appointment each time you need a refill then you need to find another doctor.
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Oh I'm paying for it, in the form of ridiculous insurance premiums. And the insurance company is paying less than I would if I paid it on my own, as they have deals with the pharma companies.

    I'd also add that you generally have to see a doc to get the original prescription, but he or she should specify that the prescription can be refilled x number of times, and they should renew it over the phone after that. If your doctor is making you come in for an appointment each time you need a refill then you need to find another doctor.
    Sure, but those refills are still costing everyone far more money, needlessly. Big Pharma strikes again.

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Absolute laws don't work. I mean I can understand banning most uses of aerosol but there is no reason to not make an exception here.

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Oh I'm paying for it, in the form of ridiculous insurance premiums. And the insurance company is paying less than I would if I paid it on my own, as they have deals with the pharma companies.

    I'd also add that you generally have to see a doc to get the original prescription, but he or she should specify that the prescription can be refilled x number of times, and they should renew it over the phone after that. If your doctor is making you come in for an appointment each time you need a refill then you need to find another doctor.
    As they say there is no such thing as a free lunch.

    well... except for the UPS guy.

    I tried that Abuterol stuff once and it didn't work. It just got me nauseous and made me vomit. I didn't want to puke on the carpet so ran to the front door, opened it and lost my lunch. It hit the concrete steps and splashed on the UPS guy.

    The poor guy was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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