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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    It appears that to some, including the OP, the only detail of importance is that this is occurring on Obama's watch . . . .
    And it appears that you are only here to defend Obama at all costs.

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    If you're unaware of the multi-decade controversy over CFC's, then I agree -- WTF?
    You wouldn't think that way if you suffered from asthma.

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    If you're unaware of the multi-decade controversy over CFC's, then I agree -- WTF?
    I'm aware, I'm also aware that medical use is exempt. This has nothing to do with the environment, and everything about money, and increased intrusiveness by government agencies. If CFC is really the issue, why not use an alternative propellant (even though it is exempt), instead of limiting patients choices to expensive, prescription only medications?
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    The story is even more complicated that it looks at first glance. I'm starting to think this issue is more about incompetence rather than malice.

    1) The FDA started its phaseout process in 2006. It was determined that there were no technical barriers to producing a HFA epinephrine replacement.
    2) Pharma company Wyeth claimed they couldn't make a replacement for technical reasons.
    3) The National Asthma Education and Prevention Program says that epinephrine sucks and everyone should switch to albuterol inhalers for health reasons anyway.
    4) Armstrong pharmaceuticals comes in and decides to make the HFA replacement starting in 2009.
    4) The FDA originally planned for 2011 end date for the CFC version, but Armstrong asks it to be pushed to 2012, claiming that they will have a replacement in early 2011.
    5) According to government records, Armstrong is currently doing clinical trials of the drug at the moment.
    6) In a press release, Armstrong says the drug will not be released until after the ban. They encourage customers to stockpile current models until they can get their new drug on the market.

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    He prescribed one brand of inhaler, whose name I can't think of but it was powder and was contained inside a bullet shaped tube. It was an inhalant, but not the typical inhaler we have seen.
    May be wrong, but think the item described is Spiriva. Recommended dosage is once daily.

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redbeard View Post
    May be wrong, but think the item described is Spiriva. Recommended dosage is once daily.
    No, it wasn't Spiriva, but it was set up, so that you never knew quite how many puffs you had left. You could shake it, and hear the powder within it and think you had more left, but you actually didn't. With Symbicort, you have an indicator on it, but you can't quite hear anything, whereas with Albuterol, you could hear it inside the tube if you shook the inhaler.

    I might have an old container of that stuff. I will get back with you on what it was called.

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    The story is even more complicated that it looks at first glance. I'm starting to think this issue is more about incompetence rather than malice.

    1) The FDA started its phaseout process in 2006. It was determined that there were no technical barriers to producing a HFA epinephrine replacement.
    2) Pharma company Wyeth claimed they couldn't make a replacement for technical reasons.
    3) The National Asthma Education and Prevention Program says that epinephrine sucks and everyone should switch to albuterol inhalers for health reasons anyway.
    4) Armstrong pharmaceuticals comes in and decides to make the HFA replacement starting in 2009.
    4) The FDA originally planned for 2011 end date for the CFC version, but Armstrong asks it to be pushed to 2012, claiming that they will have a replacement in early 2011.
    5) According to government records, Armstrong is currently doing clinical trials of the drug at the moment.
    6) In a press release, Armstrong says the drug will not be released until after the ban. They encourage customers to stockpile current models until they can get their new drug on the market.
    Since this seems to be the only medication really affected I might hazard a guess that it is the epinephrine that is causing the problem and since there are a lot of other reasons to restrict the sale - well that could be influencing a lot of this
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    No, it wasn't Spiriva, but it was set up, so that you never knew quite how many puffs you had left. You could shake it, and hear the powder within it and think you had more left, but you actually didn't. With Symbicort, you have an indicator on it, but you can't quite hear anything, whereas with Albuterol, you could hear it inside the tube if you shook the inhaler.

    I might have an old container of that stuff. I will get back with you on what it was called.
    Okay, let me reply to myself. That stuff in the bullet type inhaler, that is a powder, is called Pulmicort, some very good stuff, but not as good as Symbicort.

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Here's the latest I've heard about the situation.

    Senator DeMint tried to attach a rider to the 2012 Farm Bill that would cut off any funding to enforce the ban on epinephrine inhalers.

    But the Democrats shot it down last month.

    U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote

    Why are the Demoncrats so damned opposed to saving the lives of Americans?

    WTF is their problem?
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redbeard View Post
    In this area,
    Albuterol=$48.69
    Advair=$321.69
    Spiriva=$270.69
    Prices may vary according to area.
    That doesn't even include the doctor visit.

    And, you can't buy several of those at a time.

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