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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dix View Post
    This has already been discussed in this thread but asthma medications were exempt from the ban. It was Clinton who removed the exemption.
    I would suggest you do more research - maybe look for a link supporting that one that actually talks about international treaties

    However, Primatene Mist will no longer be available by year’s end because no CFC-containing epinephrine inhalers can be made or sold after Dec. 31, 2011, to comply with obligations made under the Montreal Protocol on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer. This is an international agreement signed by the United States, in which countries agreed to phase-out substances that deplete the ozone layer, including CFCs, after certain dates.

    “If you rely on an over-the-counter inhaler to relieve your asthma symptoms, it is important that you contact a health care professional to talk about switching to a different medicine to treat your asthma,” said Badrul Chowdhury, M.D., director of the Division of Pulmonary, Allergy and Rheumatology Products in the FDA’s Center for Drug Evaluation and Research.

    The FDA began public discussions about the use of CFCs in epinephrine inhalers in January 2006. The FDA finalized the phase-out date for using CFCs in these inhalers and notified the public in November 2008. Many manufacturers have changed their inhalers to replace CFCs with an environmentally-friendly propellant called hydrofluoroalkane (HFA). There is currently no HFA version of epinephrine inhalers.
    Last OTC Inhalers Being Phased Out

    Sorry don't see the Clinton link there
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    And back in 2008 it was thought that an epinephrine inhaler using a non-CFC propellant could be developed before 2012. But they've run into problems. That turned out not to be the case and now it is not expected to be on the market by then.

    All it would take is a stroke of the pen by Obama to reverse the decision via executive order. Instead he is simply risking the lives of millions of Americans. So you can shove your idiotic blame Bush BS where the sun don't shine, Bush isn't president anymore. Obama is president and it is 100% his decision to make.
    But millions of Australians get along fine without epinephrine in inhalers. I am wondering whether there is some other reason why this particular medication is being phased out
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by bowerbird View Post
    300-500 million people requiring them and the emissions were "minimal"? And somehow it appears that Clinton was in office in 1987!

    hint google "Montreal protocol"
    If the ingredients inside the inhaler are being inhaled directly into the lungs, how does it harm the environment?

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    If the ingredients inside the inhaler are being inhaled directly into the lungs, how does it harm the environment?

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Please tell me this is just hyperbole and not really the EPA's position.

    Asthma patients who rely on over-the-counter inhalers will need to switch to prescription-only alternatives as part of the federal government's latest attempt to protect the Earth's atmosphere.
    The Food and Drug Administration said Thursday patients who use the epinephrine inhalers to treat mild asthma will need to switch by Dec. 31 to other types that do not contain chlorofluorocarbons, an aerosol substance once found in a variety of spray products.
    The action is part of an agreement signed by the U.S. and other nations to stop using substances that deplete the ozone layer, a region in the atmosphere that helps block harmful ultraviolet rays from the Sun.
    But the switch to a greener inhaler will cost consumers more. Epinephrine inhalers are available via online retailers for around $20, whereas the alternatives, which contain the drug albuterol, range from $30 to $60.


    We couldn't make this other type of inhalers available over the counter? I thought this administrations position was in making health care more affordable.


    Obama Administration to Ban Asthma Inhalers Over Environmental Concerns | The Weekly Standard
    The hyperbole can be found in your posts, since ensuing posts have shown that:

    a) This is not a product of the "Obama administration" (although he is being castigated for not solving this problem, just as he has been repeatedly castigated for other problems he has inherited), but rather a product of a hyper-partisan attack, and that

    b) this is not a product of government corruption or ineptitude, but perhaps some form of corporate greed or malfeasance (taking advantage of a regulatory situation to eliminate a low-cost generic medication from the market in favor of a higher priced prescription alternative). The real question is: Everyone in the industry knew this was coming, so why has no CFC-free OTC alternative been forthcoming?

    Now if you can make a rational argument that the gov't has conspired to force people away from OTC meds in order to drive them to a doctor instead, then you may have a case.

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    And back in 2008 it was thought that an epinephrine inhaler using a non-CFC propellant could be developed before 2012. But they've run into problems. That turned out not to be the case and now it is not expected to be on the market by then.

    All it would take is a stroke of the pen by Obama to reverse the decision via executive order. Instead he is simply risking the lives of millions of Americans. So you can shove your idiotic blame Bush BS where the sun don't shine, Bush isn't president anymore. Obama is president and it is 100% his decision to make.
    The only problems that Pharma ran into was that they wanted to increase profit margins. They chose not to make the drug back in 2007 despite encouragement from the FDA.

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by bowerbird View Post
    I would suggest you do more research - maybe look for a link supporting that one that actually talks about international treaties



    Last OTC Inhalers Being Phased Out

    Sorry don't see the Clinton link there
    I've been following this issue for years, ever since my first personal experience with the new FHA inhalers, which was not a good one. If you don't even know the basics ie. the Clinton Admin link then you're the one who needs to do "more research".
    It was under the 9th meeting of the Montreal Protocol (1997) that the medical exemption for CFC inhalers was removed. The people in this thread blaming Reagan are wrong by a decade.
    More information:
    LEGALIZE CFC INHALERS

    Dictatorship out of Thin Air

    Former Surgeon General C. Everett Koop wrote that there is no comparison between the infinitesimal improvement in ozone depletion that would result from the FDAs ban and the direct impact of forced elimination of medications on 14 million American asthmatics.
    Ben Lieberman of the Competitive Enterprise Institute noted,
    Numerous medical societies raised concerns that the wide variety of CFC inhalers currently in use will be replaced with a handful of unproven substitutes that may be inadequate for some patients.
    But banning CFC inhalers would have given Clinton administration officials new bragging rights at international environmental conclaves. (The Clinton administration downshifted on this initiative after the backlash.)

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
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    So with each asthma sufferer, who can hardly catch his breath, much less exhale with any powerful effort has caused global warming? I see you are wearing your tin foil hat made of tin inhalers.
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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    It was the Bush administration who signed off on it in 2008.
    I am totally unfamiliar with this legislation and how it was passed. Could you please advise the answers to the following questions?

    1. What was the breakdown in votes in the House and Senate by party?
    2. Did President Bush speak in favor of this legislation?
    3. When President Bush signed this legislation into law, was this legislation part of a larger package or was it a stand-alone bill?

    President Bush certainly backed some legislation that I wish he hadn't, but not sure on this one. Based on your statement, some would take it that Bush favored this legislation and maybe he did, but let's see if that impression is actually correct. Thanks.

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    Re: EPA to ban affordable inhalers?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Please tell me this is just hyperbole and not really the EPA's position.

    Asthma patients who rely on over-the-counter inhalers will need to switch to prescription-only alternatives as part of the federal government's latest attempt to protect the Earth's atmosphere.
    The Food and Drug Administration said Thursday patients who use the epinephrine inhalers to treat mild asthma will need to switch by Dec. 31 to other types that do not contain chlorofluorocarbons, an aerosol substance once found in a variety of spray products.
    The action is part of an agreement signed by the U.S. and other nations to stop using substances that deplete the ozone layer, a region in the atmosphere that helps block harmful ultraviolet rays from the Sun.
    But the switch to a greener inhaler will cost consumers more. Epinephrine inhalers are available via online retailers for around $20, whereas the alternatives, which contain the drug albuterol, range from $30 to $60.


    We couldn't make this other type of inhalers available over the counter? I thought this administrations position was in making health care more affordable.

    Obama Administration to Ban Asthma Inhalers Over Environmental Concerns | The Weekly Standard
    Wait, wtf? environmental impact? What a load of horse ****.
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