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Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

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"The smart rich know they can only build the gate so high. And, and, sooner or later history proves that people when they've had enough aren’t going to take it anymore. And much better to deal with it nonviolently now, through the political system, than what could possibly happen in the future, which nobody wants to see," Michael Moore said on Current TV's "Countdown" program.

Michael Moore Threatens The "Rich": Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now" | RealClearPolitics

Threats? That is what progressives have devolved to? What a jack ass Moore is. He clearly does not understand business, nor the meaning of hypocrisy. Where did he make his millions? How much does he give back to the government?

Ok, So my question to libs....

Maxine Waters, "Tea partiers can go straight to hell....And I intend to help them get there...."

Andre Carson, "The tea party wants to see blacks hanging from a tree...."

Hoffa, "This is a war!....

Is this the more civil discourse dear leader was calling for after the Giffords shooting?

What is the matter with progressives?

You want violence? I say bring it...I am ready.

j-mac
 
Threats? That is what progressives have devolved to? What a jack ass Moore is. He clearly does not understand business, nor the meaning of hypocrisy. Where did he make his millions? How much does he give back to the government?

Ok, So my question to libs....

Maxine Waters, "Tea partiers can go straight to hell....And I intend to help them get there...."

Andre Carson, "The tea party wants to see blacks hanging from a tree...."

Hoffa, "This is a war!....

Is this the more civil discourse dear leader was calling for after the Giffords shooting?

What is the matter with progressives?

You want violence? I say bring it...I am ready.

j-mac

I don't know why we call this a threat, considering the only weight he has on anything is with film production companies.

Moore is not the same as most progressives. Moore=attention hungry, former successful "documentary" maker.
 
Threats? That is what progressives have devolved to? What a jack ass Moore is. He clearly does not understand business, nor the meaning of hypocrisy. Where did he make his millions? How much does he give back to the government?

Ok, So my question to libs....

Maxine Waters, "Tea partiers can go straight to hell....And I intend to help them get there...."

Andre Carson, "The tea party wants to see blacks hanging from a tree...."

Hoffa, "This is a war!....

Is this the more civil discourse dear leader was calling for after the Giffords shooting?

What is the matter with progressives?

You want violence? I say bring it...I am ready.

j-mac

First of all, it's not really fair to associate Moore with all libs. I know plenty of liberals who can't stand the guy. I'm not a huge fan, myself. Secondly, I don't see how his statement is that big of a deal. He is always talking about how he and his supporters are going to change things and blah blah blah. I see another pointless film on the horizon. That's about it.

As for your other quotes, they are typical partisan nonsense. Certain people on the right engage in this stuff as well. Both sides have their outspoken fringe lunatics who make outrageous statements. Responding to partisan nonsense with more partisan nonsense does absolutely nothing but add more fuel to the fire.

Finally, (and this goes for both sides) the tough guy crap really needs to stop. This is a message board. The story you are linking to even has a quote from Michael Moore saying that things should be dealt with "nonviolently". So acting like people are advocating violence, when they are really advocating political strategy is ridiculous. Anyone can be a tough guy on a message board. That's all I'm saying. Perhaps we should tone down the rhetoric instead of adding more fuel to this bull**** partisan fire. It's getting so incredibly old.
 
What's this non-violent ****? It's time to get violent.
 
We ARE seeing our democratic republic being choked into submission and on its way to a probably socialist dictatorship. Look at Obama's main themes.

1) Increase taxes on a portion of the population whose numbers are too small to influence election results.

2) Promise that seized wealth to a majority of the population, essentially bribing them to vote. It isn't a matter of the government needing money to perform essential functions, it is a give away to the lower income strata. He has stated outright that the lowest incomes will actuall get money they never paid!

3) The majority of those populations that will be swayed by the bribe are urban dwellers. Concentrated in those urban centers that would already be ruling the country were it not for the electoral college.
 
Threats? That is what progressives have devolved to? What a jack ass Moore is. He clearly does not understand business, nor the meaning of hypocrisy. Where did he make his millions? How much does he give back to the government?

Ok, So my question to libs....

Maxine Waters, "Tea partiers can go straight to hell....And I intend to help them get there...."

Andre Carson, "The tea party wants to see blacks hanging from a tree...."

Hoffa, "This is a war!....

Is this the more civil discourse dear leader was calling for after the Giffords shooting?

What is the matter with progressives?

You want violence? I say bring it...I am ready.

j-mac


I think most rich would be smart enough to have some firearms around their house so they can shoot anyone threatening their property and safety. After all thanks to liberals like him ****ting all over the 2nd amendment firearms are not something the poor in many places in the country can legally afford, And due to their anti-2nd amendment beliefs many idiots like him will not be adequately armed.
 
Apart from the obvious idiots, who the **** would take Moore seriously anyway?
 
First of all, it's not really fair to associate Moore with all libs. I know plenty of liberals who can't stand the guy. I'm not a huge fan, myself. Secondly, I don't see how his statement is that big of a deal. He is always talking about how he and his supporters are going to change things and blah blah blah. I see another pointless film on the horizon. That's about it.

As for your other quotes, they are typical partisan nonsense. Certain people on the right engage in this stuff as well. Both sides have their outspoken fringe lunatics who make outrageous statements. Responding to partisan nonsense with more partisan nonsense does absolutely nothing but add more fuel to the fire.

Finally, (and this goes for both sides) the tough guy crap really needs to stop. This is a message board. The story you are linking to even has a quote from Michael Moore saying that things should be dealt with "nonviolently". So acting like people are advocating violence, when they are really advocating political strategy is ridiculous. Anyone can be a tough guy on a message board. That's all I'm saying. Perhaps we should tone down the rhetoric instead of adding more fuel to this bull**** partisan fire. It's getting so incredibly old.


Ok, It is a fair point you make about Moore, and whom actually thinks he is little more than a clown. Probably why he appeared on Olberman's non viewed show to say it...However, Wasn't what we heard after Gifford was shot by the loon, that everyone needed to tone it down, yet we have example after example of libs doing just the opposite. I am not trying to be any kind of 'tough guy', rather just expressing that I am prepared.

j-mac
 
Ok, It is a fair point you make about Moore, and whom actually thinks he is little more than a clown. Probably why he appeared on Olberman's non viewed show to say it...However, Wasn't what we heard after Gifford was shot by the loon, that everyone needed to tone it down, yet we have example after example of libs doing just the opposite. I am not trying to be any kind of 'tough guy', rather just expressing that I am prepared.

j-mac

Libs only want rhetoric that they disapprove of toned down.
 
Ok, It is a fair point you make about Moore, and whom actually thinks he is little more than a clown. Probably why he appeared on Olberman's non viewed show to say it...However, Wasn't what we heard after Gifford was shot by the loon, that everyone needed to tone it down, yet we have example after example of libs doing just the opposite. I am not trying to be any kind of 'tough guy', rather just expressing that I am prepared.

j-mac

I think the rhetoric should have been toned down a long time ago. Unfortunately, I'm not in charge. Partisan politics will always be a big point of contention between people. The problem is that it shouldn't take something like the Gifford shooting for people to want to tone it down.
 
I think the rhetoric should have been toned down a long time ago. Unfortunately, I'm not in charge. Partisan politics will always be a big point of contention between people. The problem is that it shouldn't take something like the Gifford shooting for people to want to tone it down.

I agree, and it hasn't that is the point...the only thing the Gifford shooting did was give libs reason to call for toning it down while they ramp it up.

j-mac
 
If what has transpired all over the middle east this summer is not an indication of what can happen when a population's tolerance has peaked, then I don't know what is. Governments with loyal soldiers get toppled because history has taught (some of) us that you cannot win against the will of the people. Period.
 
First of all, it's not really fair to associate Moore with all libs.

But this is done all the time. No, it's not fair to paint an entire group of people based upon the statements of one but that's pretty much what many of the arguements are built on here.

Look at how many arguements start off........"Why do conservatives/liberals believe........."

Anyway.......I wonder if Moore was looking in the mirror when he said this?
 
But this is done all the time. No, it's not fair to paint an entire group of people based upon the statements of one but that's pretty much what many of the arguements are built on here.

Look at how many arguements start off........"Why do conservatives/liberals believe........."

Anyway.......I wonder if Moore was looking in the mirror when he said this?

Only by the people who cannot debate properly.

I cannot ever hold a candle to the best and smartest debators here at DP, but at least I never go down the road of broad brush accusations/generalizations.
 
We ARE seeing our democratic republic being choked into submission and on its way to a probably socialist dictatorship. Look at Obama's main themes.

1) Increase taxes on a portion of the population whose numbers are too small to influence election results.

2) Promise that seized wealth to a majority of the population, essentially bribing them to vote. It isn't a matter of the government needing money to perform essential functions, it is a give away to the lower income strata. He has stated outright that the lowest incomes will actuall get money they never paid!

3) The majority of those populations that will be swayed by the bribe are urban dwellers. Concentrated in those urban centers that would already be ruling the country were it not for the electoral college.

Yeah.... about that...

1) Increase taxes on a portion of the population whose numbers are too small to influence election results.

Actually, thats quite incorrect. (OpenSecrets.org: Money in Politics -- See Who's Giving & Who's Getting) (Citizens United | The Progressive Playbook) (Election Analysis: 2010 Midterm Bankrolled By Less Than 1% Of Americans Representing K Street, Wall Street Special Interests | Americans for Campaign Reform) (How Money Influences Elections - NYTimes.com) (Inequality, the Middle Class & the Fading American Dream | Economy In Crisis)


2) Promise that seized wealth to a majority of the population, essentially bribing them to vote. It isn't a matter of the government needing money to perform essential functions, it is a give away to the lower income strata. He has stated outright that the lowest incomes will actuall get money they never paid!

Also incorrect. Obama has mainly been promising tax breaks to the wealthy. (Obama's Tax Cut Deal: So Much For Deficit Reduction : NPR) (Obama tax cut plans would favor the rich over the middle class - International Business Times). Even though he does want to end tax cuts for the wealthy, in actuality he has mainly been doing spending cuts (Obama, Congress Reach Debt Deal - WSJ.com) even though that is a major problem (Spending Cuts Will Retard Recovery More Than Tax Hikes - HOME - PolicyShop)


3) The majority of those populations that will be swayed by the bribe are urban dwellers. Concentrated in those urban centers that would already be ruling the country were it not for the electoral college.

Actually, the top one percentile rule the country. (Who Rules America: Wealth, Income, and Power) (Keeping Politics Safe for the Rich - NYTimes.com) (Concentration of Wealth = An Influence Lock On Our Politics | OurFuture.org)
 
Michael Moore is a hack who couldn't define "legitimate", "balanced", or "honest" if he had a dictionary in his fat little hands. Everything he does is for shock value and profit.
 
I'm just waiting to see the list of people Michael Moore plans to give his Millions to. I mean, since he thinks the rich should give their money to the poor, and he's rich, then he already has a plan for giving his money out, right? :roll:
 
I'm just waiting to see the list of people Michael Moore plans to give his Millions to. I mean, since he thinks the rich should give their money to the poor, and he's rich, then he already has a plan for giving his money out, right? :roll:

It's the same as the whole idea of rich peopley saying that the rich should pay more. They're more than welcome to voluntarily donate more of their money to various causes. I'm not sure the IRS would refuse to accept an additional tax payment, either. Basically it's like saying, "Oh yeah, we think we should pay more...but we'll wait until you make us before we do anything about it."
 
Actually, I'd say it's a pretty accurate observation rather than a threat.
 
I'm just waiting to see the list of people Michael Moore plans to give his Millions to. I mean, since he thinks the rich should give their money to the poor, and he's rich, then he already has a plan for giving his money out, right? :roll:

From what I gather, it seems that he has no problem with the rich (that would include him, I suspect) paying a higher percentage of taxes. He does not expect the rich to hand over their money directly to the poor. He just wants everyone to pay their fair share. I don't see anything wrong with that.
 
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im not a michael moore fan...but I dont see where he advocated violence. He said lets be non-violent before any violence starts..

There many fringe looney things to cling to on both sides...this wasnt one of them...and it certainly wasnt Michael Moore at his best or worst depending on how you view him
 
It's the same as the whole idea of rich peopley saying that the rich should pay more. They're more than welcome to voluntarily donate more of their money to various causes. I'm not sure the IRS would refuse to accept an additional tax payment, either. Basically it's like saying, "Oh yeah, we think we should pay more...but we'll wait until you make us before we do anything about it."

Not sure what you mean here, but you do know that the those who donate money to charities get nice tax breaks, right? In fact, through tax shelters here in Canada, one can get more money back than what was originally donated.
 
Not sure what you mean here, but you do know that the those who donate money to charities get nice tax breaks, right? In fact, through tax shelters here in Canada, one can get more money back than what was originally donated.

You only get a break if you claim it. I donate around $2000 in money, time, or goods to charity throughout the year, but I don't claim it. Why? Because I don't participate in charitable giving for the financial reward. These people saying the noble thing are still just saying. They are perfectly capable of actually taking action but generally do not.
 
I agree, and it hasn't that is the point...the only thing the Gifford shooting did was give libs reason to call for toning it down while they ramp it up.

j-mac

It's not just the left though. We have the right ramping up rhetoric about socialism, dictatorship, and tyranny. Hell in another thread we have a conservative talking about a revolution. You call that toning down the rhetoric?

And Michael Moore is the Ann Coulter of the left. He's not a liberal and he's an idiot that most on the left don't take seriously. I do wish he would shut his mouth though.
 
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