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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    that is quite a bit different than your answer in post #67





    In that post it was OR... now its a combination.

    Glad to see you would not rely on a mere NRA sticker. Of course, that does not help you identify the vast majority of people who have no such bumper stickers or any other such ID on the exterior of their cars.
    so again it is your belief that the gun culture mostly supports the party of gun bans and gun control?



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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so again it is your belief that the gun culture mostly supports the party of gun bans and gun control?
    Could you rephrase that please so it is more direct and without any implications or ambiguities?

    And what does this new question have to do with you changing your position on doing political detective work on cars?
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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Could you rephrase that please so it is more direct and without any implications or ambiguities?

    And what does this new question have to do with you changing your position on doing political detective work on cars?
    so it is your position that the majority of those who are part of the gun culture support the party of gun bans and gun control (the dems)?



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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so it is your position that the majority of those who are part of the gun culture support the party of gun bans and gun control (the dems)?
    characterizing the Democratic party as the party of gun bans...... you have evidence like official party platform positions or statements to show that the party has taken this position?
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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    I fail to see where a threat is issued. Referring to past rebellions and how they could relate to today's circumstances is hardly a threat to anyone. I think it was mostly a call for the greedy to be... well... less greedy.

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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    characterizing the Democratic party as the party of gun bans...... you have evidence like official party platform positions or statements to show that the party has taken this position?
    The NFA of 34-passed by the dems and signed into law by FDR-made fully automatic weapons essentially beyond the reach of working class people due to a 200 dollar fee that was a months 'wages' back then

    1968 Gun control act-passed by dems signed into law by Johnson

    1986 Hughes Amendment-attached as a poison pill to the McClure-Volker firearms protection act-its attachment was in violation of several parliamentary rules but George Mitchell pushed it through and Reagan singed the mostly pro gun bill thinking the Hughes Amendment was going to be stricken, This provision was a complete ban on automatic weapons made after May 19, 1986 and drove up the cost of pre ban weapons by thousands of dollars

    The brady bill-passed by dems-signed into law by Clinton

    The clinton gun ban-see above

    yeah the dems are by far more the anti gun party. every major federal gun control law was dem sponsored, all but one signed into law by dem presidents. every dem on the supreme court has voted anti gun when they had the chance



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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    The NFA of 34-passed by the dems and signed into law by FDR-made fully automatic weapons essentially beyond the reach of working class people due to a 200 dollar fee that was a months 'wages' back then

    1968 Gun control act-passed by dems signed into law by Johnson

    1986 Hughes Amendment-attached as a poison pill to the McClure-Volker firearms protection act-its attachment was in violation of several parliamentary rules but George Mitchell pushed it through and Reagan singed the mostly pro gun bill thinking the Hughes Amendment was going to be stricken, This provision was a complete ban on automatic weapons made after May 19, 1986 and drove up the cost of pre ban weapons by thousands of dollars

    The brady bill-passed by dems-signed into law by Clinton

    The clinton gun ban-see above

    yeah the dems are by far more the anti gun party. every major federal gun control law was dem sponsored, all but one signed into law by dem presidents. every dem on the supreme court has voted anti gun when they had the chance
    How does any of this prove that the Democratic Party is the party of banning guns? The term GUNS takes in every type of gun on the market. Even if one gun is made unavailable under law, that does not ban guns. The removal of one soft drink from the market does not equate to a ban on soft drinks.
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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    How does any of this prove that the Democratic Party is the party of banning guns? The term GUNS takes in every type of gun on the market. Even if one gun is made unavailable under law, that does not ban guns. The removal of one soft drink from the market does not equate to a ban on soft drinks.
    because the two gun bans passed in US history are dem bills

    and gun bans in states are almost always dem legislation-like the turd Florio's bans in new jersey or the california bans authored by a dem attorney general. Chicago and DC had gun bans-dem dominated cities. gun bans are prevalent in Hawaii, Kalifornia, Connecticut, Mass, Illinois, NJ and NY. mainly dem states



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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    because the two gun bans passed in US history are dem bills

    and gun bans in states are almost always dem legislation-like the turd Florio's bans in new jersey or the california bans authored by a dem attorney general. Chicago and DC had gun bans-dem dominated cities. gun bans are prevalent in Hawaii, Kalifornia, Connecticut, Mass, Illinois, NJ and NY. mainly dem states
    Guns have not been banned. They are available and legal.
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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Guns have not been banned. They are available and legal.
    some guns are-some guns have been banned. Chicago and DC banned handguns

    many styles of guns have on their boxes-NOT FOR SALE IN CALIFORNIA, CONNECTICUT etc



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