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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    This statement has nothing to do with the statement from me that preceded it. Class warfare has been going on for quite a while now. The rich admit it. Even Warren Buffett, one of the richest men in the land,admits it and also proclaims that his class is winning.
    Buffett is a dem toady. he will say whatever helps the dems win elections. and the uber rich are far more likely to support socialism than most of the mere rich.



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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Buffett is a dem toady. he will say whatever helps the dems win elections. and the uber rich are far more likely to support socialism than most of the mere rich.
    Buffett is one of the richest men in the nation. That places him in economic and social circles which nobody here could ever touch, let alone understand. When he says his kind have been waging a successful class warfare on the rest of society, he has credibility.
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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So you examine their cars? And you conclude from this exercise that if they have a NRA sticker then they hate Democrats? That is amazing. I work for a state representative who is a Democrat and an NRA member and has a sticker on his car which says so. You would falsely interpret that to mean he hates Democrats and President Obama.
    so Haymarket it is your learned position that you know more about American gun culture and the beliefs of those who are immersed in it than someone who has been a

    1) collegiate All American

    2) a national Junior champion

    3) a two time America Cup winner

    4) a NRA life member for 37 years

    5) a NSSA all America 3X

    6) a professional level skeet and archery judge

    7) the general counsel for the largest 100% NRA gun club in the USA

    8) a CCW instructor

    9) someone who has 400+ hours of formal firearms self defense training

    10) counsel for three retail firearms operations as well as a Title II manufacturer (machine guns)

    11) a state lobbyist for a state Firearms organization

    12) counsel for a major league county law enforcement organization

    13) sponsored USPSA pistol shooter



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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Buffett is one of the richest men in the nation. That places him in economic and social circles which nobody here could ever touch, let alone understand. When he says his kind have been waging a successful class warfare on the rest of society, he has credibility.
    His kind is the top 400 or so. Yet your master wants to use that to oppress far more than "Buffett's kind"



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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    We ARE seeing our democratic republic being choked into submission and on its way to a probably socialist dictatorship. Look at Obama's main themes.

    1) Increase taxes on a portion of the population whose numbers are too small to influence election results.

    2) Promise that seized wealth to a majority of the population, essentially bribing them to vote. It isn't a matter of the government needing money to perform essential functions, it is a give away to the lower income strata. He has stated outright that the lowest incomes will actuall get money they never paid!

    3) The majority of those populations that will be swayed by the bribe are urban dwellers. Concentrated in those urban centers that would already be ruling the country were it not for the electoral college.
    Socialist?..we are already there.

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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

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    so Haymarket it is your learned position that you know more about American gun culture and the beliefs of those who are immersed in it than someone who has been a

    1) collegiate All American

    2) a national Junior champion

    3) a two time America Cup winner

    4) a NRA life member for 37 years

    5) a NSSA all America 3X

    6) a professional level skeet and archery judge

    7) the general counsel for the largest 100% NRA gun club in the USA

    8) a CCW instructor

    9) someone who has 400+ hours of formal firearms self defense training

    10) counsel for three retail firearms operations as well as a Title II manufacturer (machine guns)

    11) a state lobbyist for a state Firearms organization

    12) counsel for a major league county law enforcement organization

    13) sponsored USPSA pistol shooter

    I would love to give you an honest answer but I have been strictly cautioned by the moderators here NOT to discuss you personally..... even if you open up that door. So I will decline your generous offer to criticize or discuss your own personal credentials.

    It is enough to point out that your own standard of identifying someone by an NRA sticker on their vehicle as evidence that they hate Democrats is bogus and does not provide a true test. The State Representative I work for is an NRA member and has such identification as such. You would have judged him wrongly.
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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
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    I would love to give you an honest answer but I have been strictly cautioned by the moderators here NOT to discuss you personally..... even if you open up that door. So I will decline your generous offer to criticize or discuss your own personal credentials.

    It is enough to point out that your own standard of identifying someone by an NRA sticker on their vehicle as evidence that they hate Democrats is bogus and does not provide a true test. The State Representative I work for is an NRA member and has such identification as such. You would have judged him wrongly.
    I will take that as a no then. Yes, there are many unionistas who support the NRA but vote dem. Some dems-like Dingell are very pro gun. HOwever, there has never been a pro gun Dem presidential ticket since Humphrey-in 1968 HHH was the better choice for gun owners over Nixon. Carter was anti gun, mondale was anti gun, Dukakis was extreme anti gun, Clinton and Gore were extreme anti gun, Gore was anti gun, Kerry was extreme anti gun, and Obama and biden were the most anti gun ticket in the history of the USA



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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I will take that as a no then. Yes, there are many unionistas who support the NRA but vote dem. Some dems-like Dingell are very pro gun. HOwever, there has never been a pro gun Dem presidential ticket since Humphrey-in 1968 HHH was the better choice for gun owners over Nixon. Carter was anti gun, mondale was anti gun, Dukakis was extreme anti gun, Clinton and Gore were extreme anti gun, Gore was anti gun, Kerry was extreme anti gun, and Obama and biden were the most anti gun ticket in the history of the USA
    Irrelevant and immaterial to your boast that you can look at their car and identify their politics. You have been proved wrong.
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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Irrelevant and immaterial to your boast that you can look at their car and identify their politics. You have been proved wrong.
    wrong, I noted I also talk to them as well and most of them had GOP NRA stickers. For example, I have a sticker on my car that says DEFEND FREEDOM VOTE PORTMAN-issued by the NRA. that is the sticker I am talking about

    if someone has an NRA sticker with an IBEW or AFSCME sticker then I wouldn't think they are GOPers

    If the NRA generally was neutral in elections then your masters like Schumer wouldn't push legislation designed to harass NRA members



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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    wrong, I noted I also talk to them as well and most of them had GOP NRA stickers. For example, I have a sticker on my car that says DEFEND FREEDOM VOTE PORTMAN-issued by the NRA. that is the sticker I am talking about

    if someone has an NRA sticker with an IBEW or AFSCME sticker then I wouldn't think they are GOPers

    If the NRA generally was neutral in elections then your masters like Schumer wouldn't push legislation designed to harass NRA members
    that is quite a bit different than your answer in post #67



    when people have Impeach Obama or NRA stickers on their car I don't need a PhD to figure out they probably think Democrats generally suck
    In that post it was OR... now its a combination.

    Glad to see you would not rely on a mere NRA sticker. Of course, that does not help you identify the vast majority of people who have no such bumper stickers or any other such ID on the exterior of their cars.
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