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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Threats? That is what progressives have devolved to? What a jack ass Moore is. He clearly does not understand business, nor the meaning of hypocrisy. Where did he make his millions? How much does he give back to the government?

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    Did your even watch the video you posted? Where did Michael Moore make a threat? He quoted Michael Bloomberg about the potential for riots in the streets and then advocated working inside of the political process to prevent violence. His references to violence spoke of this historic consequence of what happens when a society does not meet then needs of its people.

    His primary point, which is not obvious within the clip, is that a society that does not meet the basic needs of its people (the masses) is doomed to collapse. Over the past 30 years, the US economy has grown, but 80% of that benefit went to 1% of the population. The fruits of the US economy are not equitably (I don't mean equally) shared. Our economy is behaving far more like Mexico and other 3rd world economies than a 1st world democracy. This trend acts to undermine the stability of our society (and thus our economy). Unless these trends are corrected, the US will collapse.

    Instead of a healthy discussion on the merits of the initial proposition, this thread quickly degenerated into the size of individual arsenals and who can shoot straight. Who cares? Does anyone really want to live through a US revolution? You might save your physical body, but you are not going to save you lives. They will change forever ...and, if its really the apocalypse, your guns and money are going to be irrelevant.
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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Michael Moore a patriot? that's like saying Ted Bundy was a women's rights advocates or charlie Manson a humanitarian
    Patriotism is NOT measured by the amount of right wing kool aid one has consumed and the level to which they have prostrated themselves before the altar of the far right.
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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    no need to, its pretty obvious to those who are attentive
    So you do not test, question, quiz nor interrogate these students about their political beliefs but you somehow - by being what you call "attentive" can discern their political beliefs? That is pretty amazing. Just how do you do this?
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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I love some kid going to law school: he keeps saying he wants violent revolution

    having shot someone I know what the score is. I doubt he has a clue
    Having said the exact opposite of "I want a violent revolution" in the post you quoted, your position seems to just be empty bravado. I said that one is certain to happen if peaceful solutions aren't reached, and that it would be justified. But I would rather see those peaceful solutions, like the people of this country voting the corruption out of power, than shed blood.

    And no, I have never shot anyone. That's the difference here. You're itching to kill someone. I don't want to shoot anyone. I will if I have to, but I don't need to hurt others to feel better about myself, as so many others seem to. I certainly can if I need to, but I don't look forward to it.
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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Upsideguy,

    I looked at your chart, figure 1, and it's interesting how the wealth shifted from around 1980. I look back and wonder what happened and IMO it was the evolution of the tech age, take Microsoft for an example, it has created more wealth (millionaires) for more individuals than any company in the world. Now add on Apple, Oracle, E-Bay, Amazon, Dell, Sun Micro, and the like. Then add the Internet, GPS, Cell phones, and the like. And you end up with trillions in the hands of tech engineers and entrepreneurs leading the way changing how the world works. The tech industry has had an explosion in the last 40 yrs and it has changed our lives. Take this forum as an example. This wealth is not blue collar wealth, the Tech industry is not a steel mill or an auto assembly line. It is high tech stuff that is driven by some very smart engineers and forward thinking people. Just saying.
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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Patriotism is NOT measured by the amount of right wing kool aid one has consumed and the level to which they have prostrated themselves before the altar of the far right.
    trying to push the socialist class warfare agenda is not patriotism but rather a cancer ruining this nation

    and opposing welfare redistribution and unionista malignancy is not far right but common sense



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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So you do not test, question, quiz nor interrogate these students about their political beliefs but you somehow - by being what you call "attentive" can discern their political beliefs? That is pretty amazing. Just how do you do this?

    I talk to people who train with us or compete with us. when people have Impeach Obama or NRA stickers on their car I don't need a PhD to figure out they probably think Democrats generally suck



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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Having said the exact opposite of "I want a violent revolution" in the post you quoted, your position seems to just be empty bravado. I said that one is certain to happen if peaceful solutions aren't reached, and that it would be justified. But I would rather see those peaceful solutions, like the people of this country voting the corruption out of power, than shed blood.

    And no, I have never shot anyone. That's the difference here. You're itching to kill someone. I don't want to shoot anyone. I will if I have to, but I don't need to hurt others to feel better about myself, as so many others seem to. I certainly can if I need to, but I don't look forward to it.
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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    trying to push the socialist class warfare agenda is not patriotism but rather a cancer ruining this nation
    This statement has nothing to do with the statement from me that preceded it. Class warfare has been going on for quite a while now. The rich admit it. Even Warren Buffett, one of the richest men in the land,admits it and also proclaims that his class is winning.
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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I talk to people who train with us or compete with us. when people have Impeach Obama or NRA stickers on their car I don't need a PhD to figure out they probably think Democrats generally suck
    So you examine their cars? And you conclude from this exercise that if they have a NRA sticker then they hate Democrats? That is amazing. I work for a state representative who is a Democrat and an NRA member and has a sticker on his car which says so. You would falsely interpret that to mean he hates Democrats and President Obama.
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