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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I think the rhetoric should have been toned down a long time ago. Unfortunately, I'm not in charge. Partisan politics will always be a big point of contention between people. The problem is that it shouldn't take something like the Gifford shooting for people to want to tone it down.
    I agree, and it hasn't that is the point...the only thing the Gifford shooting did was give libs reason to call for toning it down while they ramp it up.

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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    If what has transpired all over the middle east this summer is not an indication of what can happen when a population's tolerance has peaked, then I don't know what is. Governments with loyal soldiers get toppled because history has taught (some of) us that you cannot win against the will of the people. Period.
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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    First of all, it's not really fair to associate Moore with all libs.
    But this is done all the time. No, it's not fair to paint an entire group of people based upon the statements of one but that's pretty much what many of the arguements are built on here.

    Look at how many arguements start off........"Why do conservatives/liberals believe........."

    Anyway.......I wonder if Moore was looking in the mirror when he said this?

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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    But this is done all the time. No, it's not fair to paint an entire group of people based upon the statements of one but that's pretty much what many of the arguements are built on here.

    Look at how many arguements start off........"Why do conservatives/liberals believe........."

    Anyway.......I wonder if Moore was looking in the mirror when he said this?
    Only by the people who cannot debate properly.

    I cannot ever hold a candle to the best and smartest debators here at DP, but at least I never go down the road of broad brush accusations/generalizations.
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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    We ARE seeing our democratic republic being choked into submission and on its way to a probably socialist dictatorship. Look at Obama's main themes.

    1) Increase taxes on a portion of the population whose numbers are too small to influence election results.

    2) Promise that seized wealth to a majority of the population, essentially bribing them to vote. It isn't a matter of the government needing money to perform essential functions, it is a give away to the lower income strata. He has stated outright that the lowest incomes will actuall get money they never paid!

    3) The majority of those populations that will be swayed by the bribe are urban dwellers. Concentrated in those urban centers that would already be ruling the country were it not for the electoral college.
    Yeah.... about that...

    1) Increase taxes on a portion of the population whose numbers are too small to influence election results.

    Actually, thats quite incorrect. (OpenSecrets.org: Money in Politics -- See Who's Giving & Who's Getting) (Citizens United | The Progressive Playbook) (Election Analysis: 2010 Midterm Bankrolled By Less Than 1% Of Americans Representing K Street, Wall Street Special Interests | Americans for Campaign Reform) (How Money Influences Elections - NYTimes.com) (Inequality, the Middle Class & the Fading American Dream | Economy In Crisis)


    2) Promise that seized wealth to a majority of the population, essentially bribing them to vote. It isn't a matter of the government needing money to perform essential functions, it is a give away to the lower income strata. He has stated outright that the lowest incomes will actuall get money they never paid!

    Also incorrect. Obama has mainly been promising tax breaks to the wealthy. (Obama's Tax Cut Deal: So Much For Deficit Reduction : NPR) (Obama tax cut plans would favor the rich over the middle class - International Business Times). Even though he does want to end tax cuts for the wealthy, in actuality he has mainly been doing spending cuts (Obama, Congress Reach Debt Deal - WSJ.com) even though that is a major problem (Spending Cuts Will Retard Recovery More Than Tax*Hikes - HOME - PolicyShop)


    3) The majority of those populations that will be swayed by the bribe are urban dwellers. Concentrated in those urban centers that would already be ruling the country were it not for the electoral college.

    Actually, the top one percentile rule the country. (Who Rules America: Wealth, Income, and Power) (Keeping Politics Safe for the Rich - NYTimes.com) (Concentration of Wealth = An Influence Lock On Our Politics | OurFuture.org)
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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Michael Moore is a hack who couldn't define "legitimate", "balanced", or "honest" if he had a dictionary in his fat little hands. Everything he does is for shock value and profit.
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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    I'm just waiting to see the list of people Michael Moore plans to give his Millions to. I mean, since he thinks the rich should give their money to the poor, and he's rich, then he already has a plan for giving his money out, right?

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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    I'm just waiting to see the list of people Michael Moore plans to give his Millions to. I mean, since he thinks the rich should give their money to the poor, and he's rich, then he already has a plan for giving his money out, right?
    It's the same as the whole idea of rich peopley saying that the rich should pay more. They're more than welcome to voluntarily donate more of their money to various causes. I'm not sure the IRS would refuse to accept an additional tax payment, either. Basically it's like saying, "Oh yeah, we think we should pay more...but we'll wait until you make us before we do anything about it."
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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Actually, I'd say it's a pretty accurate observation rather than a threat.

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    Re: Michael Moore Threatens The Rich: Let's "Deal With It Nonviolently Now"

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    I'm just waiting to see the list of people Michael Moore plans to give his Millions to. I mean, since he thinks the rich should give their money to the poor, and he's rich, then he already has a plan for giving his money out, right?
    From what I gather, it seems that he has no problem with the rich (that would include him, I suspect) paying a higher percentage of taxes. He does not expect the rich to hand over their money directly to the poor. He just wants everyone to pay their fair share. I don't see anything wrong with that.
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    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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