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    Pakistan spy agency accused of directing attacks against US targets

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    The Pakistani government, through its intelligence service, is "actively involved" in directing the militant Haqqani network to launch terrorist attacks against U.S. and Afghan government targets in Kabul, U.S. military officials tell NBC News.
    The officials told NBC News the ISI, Pakistan's powerful spy agency, directed the attacks by Haqqani militants on the U.S. Embassy on Sept. 13 and on the Inter-Continental Hotel on June 28. It's suspected ISI also had a role in the massive truck bombing targeting an American base in eastern Afghanistan on the eve of the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks, the officials said.
    U.S.: Pakistan ISI directed Kabul embassy attack - World news - South and Central Asia - Pakistan - msnbc.com

    If this is, in fact, accurate, then the U.S. should immediately cut off all financial, military, and technical aid to Pakistan unless those responsible are removed from Pakistan's government and all government-related entities. There needs to be concrete and credible evidence to justify such a drastic measure. Congress should immediately request that the evidence on which the allegations are being made is furnished to determine whether such a policy change is justified.

    In the meantime, the President should direct the military to immediately devise a plan that would allow the military to rapidly eliminate the need for using Pakistan as a supply route for Afghanistan operations should the above measure become necessary.

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    Re: Pakistan spy agency accused of directing attacks against US targets

    I read a BBC article the other day that said that the Pakistan government is suspected to have ties to the Haqqani group. Guess this reiterates the claim.
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    Re: Pakistan spy agency accused of directing attacks against US targets

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    The most senior US military officer has accused Pakistan's spy agency of supporting the Haqqani group in last week's attack on the US Kabul embassy.

    "The Haqqani network... acts as a veritable arm of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence Agency," Adm Mike Mullen told a Senate panel.
    BBC News - Pakistan 'backed Haqqani attack on Kabul' - Mike Mullen
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    Re: Pakistan spy agency accused of directing attacks against US targets

    If this is, in fact, accurate, then the U.S. should immediately cut off all financial, military, and technical aid to Pakistan unless those responsible are removed from Pakistan's government and all government-related entities. There needs to be concrete and credible evidence to justify such a drastic measure. Congress should immediately request that the evidence on which the allegations are being made is furnished to determine whether such a policy change is justified.
    Not feasible. Pakistan is our supply link into Afghanistan. If we cut off aid, we lose access and probably have to give up the whole campaign. Not that I really would be broken up about it, but it would make sense to stall for time to pull out before the roads get closed.

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    Re: Pakistan spy agency accused of directing attacks against US targets

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Not feasible. Pakistan is our supply link into Afghanistan. If we cut off aid, we lose access and probably have to give up the whole campaign. Not that I really would be broken up about it, but it would make sense to stall for time to pull out before the roads get closed.
    There are other vastly more expensive or politically impossible ways to get supplies to Afghanistan.

    A land route through Russia and a couple central asian countries. Very expensive and would require some concessions to Russia (ie missile shield).

    The politically impossible, but vastly cheaper route would be through Iran
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    Re: Pakistan spy agency accused of directing attacks against US targets

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
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    U.S.: Pakistan ISI directed Kabul embassy attack - World news - South and Central Asia - Pakistan - msnbc.com

    If this is, in fact, accurate, then the U.S. should immediately cut off all financial, military, and technical aid to Pakistan unless those responsible are removed from Pakistan's government and all government-related entities. There needs to be concrete and credible evidence to justify such a drastic measure. Congress should immediately request that the evidence on which the allegations are being made is furnished to determine whether such a policy change is justified.

    In the meantime, the President should direct the military to immediately devise a plan that would allow the military to rapidly eliminate the need for using Pakistan as a supply route for Afghanistan operations should the above measure become necessary.
    As I've always suspected, the ISI has been in cahoots with various militant groups, and I think this is yet another hole in the ISI that shows they may very well have helped to hide Bin Laden, or stop other elements from finding him within the country.

    There's one drawback to your proposed reaction, it could lead to the collapse of the Pakistani state, and we all know what that means.

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    Re: Pakistan spy agency accused of directing attacks against US targets

    Al Jazeera's report on this gives a bit more background and description of the tensions.
    US slams Pakistan for 'supporting' Haqqani - Central & South Asia - Al Jazeera English
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    Re: Pakistan spy agency accused of directing attacks against US targets

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Not feasible. Pakistan is our supply link into Afghanistan. If we cut off aid, we lose access and probably have to give up the whole campaign. Not that I really would be broken up about it, but it would make sense to stall for time to pull out before the roads get closed.
    It would be difficult, but it is not impossible. It would require "out of the box" thinking so to speak. Options include making arrangements in neighboring states or creating an "air bridge" modeled after the Berlin Airlift. Certainly, an alternative would be more expensive.

    Right now, we don't yet know whether the allegations are accurate. If they are, it raises real problems. For now, Congress should seek that the evidence be furnished for a rigorous evaluation of that evidence.

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    Re: Pakistan spy agency accused of directing attacks against US targets

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Not feasible. Pakistan is our supply link into Afghanistan. If we cut off aid, we lose access and probably have to give up the whole campaign. Not that I really would be broken up about it, but it would make sense to stall for time to pull out before the roads get closed.
    Rathi is correct. Does anyone see a way to get to Afghanistan without going over a country that would not allow us in their airspace?
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    Re: Pakistan spy agency accused of directing attacks against US targets

    I thought when we found Bin Laden had been living a life of leisure in Pakistan we knew they were not our friends.

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