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    Re: Pakistan spy agency accused of directing attacks against US targets

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
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    U.S.: Pakistan ISI directed Kabul embassy attack - World news - South and Central Asia - Pakistan - msnbc.com

    If this is, in fact, accurate, then the U.S. should immediately cut off all financial, military, and technical aid to Pakistan unless those responsible are removed from Pakistan's government and all government-related entities. There needs to be concrete and credible evidence to justify such a drastic measure. Congress should immediately request that the evidence on which the allegations are being made is furnished to determine whether such a policy change is justified.

    In the meantime, the President should direct the military to immediately devise a plan that would allow the military to rapidly eliminate the need for using Pakistan as a supply route for Afghanistan operations should the above measure become necessary.
    Color me surprised. To me, this is kind of like the USA claiming with great shock, "Breaking News! Evidence shows that the moon is NOT made of green cheese!"

    When every single joint operation with the Paki's results in the target being long gone when we arrive, and the one time we don't tell the Paki's squat we end up with bin Laden's head on a pike and the Paki government spitting with outrage, I think even the most brain-dead governmental official might have actually sparked enough brain cells to go, "WTF?" a long time ago.

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    Re: Pakistan spy agency accused of directing attacks against US targets

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Color me surprised. To me, this is kind of like the USA claiming with great shock, "Breaking News! Evidence shows that the moon is NOT made of green cheese!"
    "We are shocked - SHOCKED! - to find gambling going on in here!

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    Re: Pakistan spy agency accused of directing attacks against US targets

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Color me surprised. To me, this is kind of like the USA claiming with great shock, "Breaking News! Evidence shows that the moon is NOT made of green cheese!"

    When every single joint operation with the Paki's results in the target being long gone when we arrive, and the one time we don't tell the Paki's squat we end up with bin Laden's head on a pike and the Paki government spitting with outrage, I think even the most brain-dead governmental official might have actually sparked enough brain cells to go, "WTF?" a long time ago.
    I'm not too surprised. Pakistan has been sliding toward failed state status for some time now. The U.S., not understanding the situation in Pakistan, made a serious strategic error in pushing President Musharraf from power. The result has been that Mr. Musharraf is now embittered toward the U.S. and openly voices opposition to U.S. policy aims and an inept and corrupt successor government that is not appreciably more democratic than Mr. Musharraf's was but is notably more hostile toward U.S. interests. In effect, the U.S. hastened the onset of a power vacuum in Pakistan and that development has undermined U.S. interests in the region.

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    Re: Pakistan spy agency accused of directing attacks against US targets

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    I'm not too surprised. Pakistan has been sliding toward failed state status for some time now. The U.S., not understanding the situation in Pakistan, made a serious strategic error in pushing President Musharraf from power. The result has been that Mr. Musharraf is now embittered toward the U.S. and openly voices opposition to U.S. policy aims and an inept and corrupt successor government that is not appreciably more democratic than Mr. Musharraf's was but is notably more hostile toward U.S. interests. In effect, the U.S. hastened the onset of a power vacuum in Pakistan and that development has undermined U.S. interests in the region.
    When I said, "Color me surprised" it was sarcasm. Nobody with an I.Q. higher than that of boiled cabbage is surprised that Pakistan is sabotaging the US, and leaking mission information to Al Qaeda.

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    Re: Pakistan spy agency accused of directing attacks against US targets

    if Pakistan wants to destroy U.S, it is a matter of time. their supply line goes through Pakistan, U.S should remember that

    U.S should accept the defeat now, they have lost the war from poor Afghans. Pakistan could help them in honorable exit, do not expect more then this from Pakistan

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    Re: Pakistan spy agency accused of directing attacks against US targets

    Quote Originally Posted by janbazali View Post
    if Pakistan wants to destroy U.S, it is a matter of time. their supply line goes through Pakistan, U.S should remember that

    U.S should accept the defeat now, they have lost the war from poor Afghans. Pakistan could help them in honorable exit, do not expect more then this from Pakistan
    Eh, once we stop giving Pakistan billions of dollars every year that they use to line their own pockets and sabatoge US interests, I think we'll have enough money to bribe another corrupt country to let us establish another pipeline. Pakistan doesn't know the meaning of the word "honorable". Personally I expect nothing more from Pakistan than more begging for money with one hand while stabbing us in the back with the other. I just want to get our soldiers out of that entire hellhole pit of corruption that is Iraq and Afghanistan so we can stop paying the damned Pakistan government to train terrorists that blow up Indian cities and murder their own damned people.

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    Re: Pakistan spy agency accused of directing attacks against US targets

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Eh, once we stop giving Pakistan billions of dollars every year that they use to line their own pockets and sabatoge US interests, I think we'll have enough money to bribe another corrupt country to let us establish another pipeline. Pakistan doesn't know the meaning of the word "honorable". Personally I expect nothing more from Pakistan than more begging for money with one hand while stabbing us in the back with the other. I just want to get our soldiers out of that entire hellhole pit of corruption that is Iraq and Afghanistan so we can stop paying the damned Pakistan government to train terrorists that blow up Indian cities and murder their own damned people.
    come on, you are paying us for our services, we are fighting the war of terror just for U.S, if u give us 2 million, your NATO trucks used the infrastructure of 4 billion in Pakistan.

    and if you talk about the terror. U.S and Americans are the biggest terrorist. U.S killed millions in Iraq, Afghanistan for the purpose of 9/11 which was an established inside job.

    U.S lies about Iraq, they found nothing in the name of weapon of mass destruction, they invaded Afghanistan for a sake of just one person (OBL). Afghans are fighting against foreign occupation, and this is absolutely right according to the rules of U.N

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    Re: Pakistan spy agency accused of directing attacks against US targets

    Pakistan is a nuclear power, we must proceed with caution. That said, we also need to seek justice and hold our "ally" accountable for betrayal if these accusations are true. The one thing we can count on is that Pakistan and India will always have more hostile relations towards each other.
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    Re: Pakistan spy agency accused of directing attacks against US targets

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    How many nukes do they have? Are they releasing material, knowledge, etc to various independent groups now? I mean, if they're going to go this far with their support and training of terrorists, what's to say they haven't been doing so. Maybe we're just better off expanding India till it boarders Afghanistan.
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    India would and does not have the resources required to do so. It is fighting various insurgent groups through significant areas within it. From having 600 000 security forces in Kashmir, to fighting the Naxalites. To divert the required forces to control Pakistan would drain its internal security and see India collapse itself. Its economy is only benifiting a small portion of the population ( upper middle class and well educated)

    As for Pakistani nuke, over 100 and most likely between 200-300. It has provided knowledge and mostly likely equipment to various countries most notably North Korea. An invasion of Pakistan would see Pakistani nukes used on the attackers in one form or another. India would be hit with missiles, the US with a smuggled weapon, as Pakistan does not have a missile with the required range.

    Pakistan has different interests in Afghanistan, ones that it feels are vital to its security, Afghanistan is rather meaningless to the US, and it should decide whether or not attacking Pakistan would be worth the potentially far higher costs
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    Re: Pakistan spy agency accused of directing attacks against US targets

    Oh hell, I don't want to attack Pakistan. I didn't want to attack Iraq, either. I was okay with Afghanistan until I learned we'd be staying there for years to babysit the corrupt government in Kabul.

    I want the US out of the entire region. Out of Iraq, out of Afghanistan, tell Pakistan to piss off when it begs for money and let that entire tribal hellpit that is South Asia do what they've been doing for centuries, killing each other off.

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