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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    hmm... prison homicides rates are "ridiculously low" so it's a non issue.... but only about 1000 murderers since 1977 have been executed.
    why doesn't this "ridiculously low " execution rate have you claiming the death penalty a non-issue?
    I'm not against the death penalty because of the number of people executed. I'm against the death penalty because it means that the government takes lives for revenge and morality. Moreover, there is a difference between people in prison killing each other (usually gangs) and state-mandated killing. The state has no business killing people to exact revenge or impose morality.

    and no, there are more purposes for the death penalty than revenge and morality.. those are the 2 purposes YOU assign it to make you argument.
    Actually, revenge and morality are the two main aspects. Those are the ones most commonly referenced. Another one is deterrence which isn't a proven result of capital punishment in any respect.

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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    your article doesn't provide any evidence for the "well known fact" of innocents being executed.

    the article does provide evidence that the appeals process works, though.
    Barry Scheck: Innocent, but Executed

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    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    You quoted the victim's son. Was that just for the emotional appeal? I don't understand the argument that, because some victim's families oppose the death penalty, it should somehow carry more weight than victim's families who support it.
    Actually I posted it because it showed that those who should be extremely emotional about it can sometimes remarkably remove themselves from the emotional angle and present a rather salient and non-emotional response.
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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

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    White supremacist executed for dragging death - CBS News

    This is why I support the death penalty. Good for Texas.
    Let's be sure he's dead - drive a wooden stake though his ****in' heart and bury him face down.

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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

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    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Let's be sure he's dead - drive a wooden stake though his ****in' heart and bury him face down.
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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    I believe in forgiveness and I believe in justice. If we do not forgive then our feelings hold us hostage. Justice is not tied to forgiveness. The individual got appropriate justice...did I mention that I am a firm believer in the death penalty?

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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    So how would you adjust the appeals system so that the defendant gets a fair chance at appealing their case while also making the execution date as fast as possible?
    automatic three strikes and your out program. upon the jury making their decision and you getting the death penalty, you go before another jury whose sole job it is to re-weigh the evidence (but who are not told that you are there for the death penalty), and then you go before a panel of judges who affirm that the evidence and verdict rates the death penalty.

    the Constitution guarantees speedy trials - dragging out the appeals process violates that spirit if it can be argued that it does not violate the letter.

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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    automatic three strikes and your out program. upon the jury making their decision and you getting the death penalty, you go before another jury whose sole job it is to re-weigh the evidence (but who are not told that you are there for the death penalty), and then you go before a panel of judges who affirm that the evidence and verdict rates the death penalty.

    the Constitution guarantees speedy trials - dragging out the appeals process violates that spirit if it can be argued that it does not violate the letter.
    I think you are misinterpreting the intent of "speedy trial" as written by our forefathers. Being that they intend for people to have a speedy trial to keep them from being detained indefinitely. Not as a fast track to execution.

    In your plan, if new evidence turns up after your third strike, does that mean "tough crap mr. deadman?"
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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Who wants to bet that this thread doesn't get nearly as much action from the anti-death penalty crowd as the Troy Davis thread?

    Any takers?
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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Who wants to bet that this thread doesn't get nearly as much action from the anti-death penalty crowd as the Troy Davis thread?

    Any takers?
    So what? I'd like to see you actually post your assumptions as to why instead of hiding them.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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