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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Meh, there a plenty of studies that disagree with your conclusions, so whatever on that "objective" research.
    Okay, so post some. That's what we do here. That's how we roll. And incidentally, whatever on yer "meh."
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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    Exactly. This is the old cum hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy that if two events happen simultaneously one must cause the other. Thanks for that.
    EVEN IF the DP deterred murders, it would still be wrong, IMO.

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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    EVEN IF the DP deterred murders, it would still be wrong, IMO.
    Okay. I can live with that. Sometimes the best argument is simply to not try and justify your belief at all. Just put it out there. I can respect your opinion.
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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    I live next door to Louisiana, and yes, it is considered a border state and has a large number of Mexican immigrants (both legal and illegal) since Hurricane Katrina, high poverty levels , even higher school dropout rates, so.....yes, it "fits the bill". As far as Oklahoma, it has one of the largest populations of Native Americans (which experience extremely high poverty and unemployment rates - as an ethnic group) and has one of the higher rates for alcoholism (ranks #11 in alcohol related deaths - see link below) in the US. So, again, it too "fits the bill." Sorry.

    Alcohol related traffic fatalities (per capita) statistics - states compared - StateMaster Health
    not so much. neither state has high unemployment.....and louisiana has less than 3% of their population hispanic.

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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    About time they put this piece-a-**** on ice, too.

    Die you mother****er die!
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    Okay, so post some. That's what we do here. That's how we roll. And incidentally, whatever on yer "meh."
    Here's a general overview:

    Cassy Stubbs: The Death Penalty Deterrence Myth: No Solid Evidence That Killing Stops The Killing

    Studies/Evidence Against Deterrence:

    http://bpp.wharton.upenn.edu/jwolfer...nalty(SLR).pdf
    http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/FaganTestimony.pdf
    http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/DonohueDeter.pdf
    http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/file...eStudy2009.pdf

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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    If a person is hell bent on killing, nothing is going to stop them. However I don't care if the death penalty does not stop anyone from killing. Killing a murderer is the right thing to do.

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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    Okay. I can live with that. Sometimes the best argument is simply to not try and justify your belief at all. Just put it out there. I can respect your opinion.
    That's just it--does one's belief have to be justified?

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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Killing a murderer is the right thing to do.
    Well, I don't believe "right" and "wrong" should factor into sentencing since they're so subjective. I think it should be about safety and killing people doesn't really help safety anymore than life sentences.

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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Well, I don't believe "right" and "wrong" should factor into sentencing since they're so subjective. I think it should be about safety and killing people doesn't really help safety anymore than life sentences.
    yes it does.
    both penalties remove the murderer from society at large, but only one has him housed with other ,lesser, criminals ... and a lifer has nothing to lose, so he can kill at will in prison.

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