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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I made a long reply on this topic in the other thread. The short reply just to this: he was already out of the community and had been for a number of years.



    Yeah, this is just kinda sad. "Well, others are worse than us" is not a good excuse.
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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    White supremacist executed for dragging death - CBS News

    This is why I support the death penalty. Good for Texas.
    Meh. I believe the justice system is about safety - protecting citizens. Killing him didn't protect us. It's about "punishing people" and "getting revenge" - two things that I believe can only be done with arrogance. So while I'm not particularly upset to see him die, I'm still pretty disgusted that he was killed just to make other people feel better. I'm glad I live in a no death penalty state.

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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    interestingly enough, the only one advocating Community service in this thread is you.

    congratulations are in order though. the U.S. is part of this select group.

    China, Iran, North Korea, the Saudis and Yemen.

    you must be very proud.


    still laughing?
    Anyone bring up 1972-1976, when there no executions in the US? The Graph says it all. Can anyone say "huge spike in the murder rate"?

    Death_penalty_deterrence.jpg
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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Meh. I believe the justice system is about safety - protecting citizens. Killing him didn't protect us. It's about "punishing people" and "getting revenge" - two things that I believe can only be done with arrogance. So while I'm not particularly upset to see him die, I'm still pretty disgusted that he was killed just to make other people feel better. I'm glad I live in a no death penalty state.
    I , on the other hand, am so glad that I live in a state WITH capital punishment. I believe that it is so much more than "revenge" or "making people feel better." I believe that the "deterrence factor" is much more important than both. Over a dozen major law schools, as well as the Justice Dept. have conducted reputable and documented studies on capital punishment as a crime deterrent and ALL have reached srikingly similar conclusions (all you Wiki-hounds can google it for yourselves). Statistically speaking, on average, every US execution results in 10-18 fewer murders. This then, IMO, is a no-brainer. Trading 10-18 innocent lives for ONE convict?
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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    I , on the other hand, am so glad that I live in a state WITH capital punishment. I believe that it is so much more than "revenge" or "making people feel better." I believe that the "deterrence factor" is much more important than both. Over a dozen major law schools, as well as the Justice Dept. have conducted reputable and documented studies on capital punishment as a crime deterrent and ALL have reached srikingly similar conclusions (all you Wiki-hounds can google it for yourselves). Statistically speaking, on average, every US execution results in 10-18 fewer murders. This then, IMO, is a no-brainer. Trading 10-18 innocent lives for ONE convict?
    the muder rate is higher in states WITH THE DEATH penalty than without. here's a link:

    http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/dete...r-murder-rates

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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    I , on the other hand, am so glad that I live in a state WITH capital punishment. I believe that it is so much more than "revenge" or "making people feel better." I believe that the "deterrence factor" is much more important than both. Over a dozen major law schools, as well as the Justice Dept. have conducted reputable and documented studies on capital punishment as a crime deterrent and ALL have reached srikingly similar conclusions (all you Wiki-hounds can google it for yourselves). Statistically speaking, on average, every US execution results in 10-18 fewer murders. This then, IMO, is a no-brainer.
    There are a lot of studies that say the exact opposite, so it's not so much of a no brainer.

    Trading 10-18 innocent lives for ONE convict?
    My point exactly. Trade the innocent lives of those wrongly convicted for one heinous criminal. Not a good idea.

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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    the muder rate is higher in states WITH THE DEATH penalty than without. here's a link:

    http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/dete...r-murder-rates
    Nice spin. Shame on you. Fortunately, the educated know better. Most of these states have inherently higher crime rates to begin with due to the facts that they have higher poverty levels, lower education levels, more/larger urban areas, higher unemployment, or are border/coastal states which constantly deal with illegal immigration and drug trafficking.
    Nice try though, really.
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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    the muder rate is higher in states WITH THE DEATH penalty than without. here's a link:

    http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/dete...r-murder-rates
    correlation =/= causation, if that's what you were attempting to imply, LL.

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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    White supremacist executed for dragging death - CBS News

    This is why I support the death penalty. Good for Texas.
    One down one more to go.Two bad it isn't two more to go, the other buy must have ratted out the other guys in exchange for a life sentence. Although I wonder if any of the scumbag sympathizers jumped on the we shouldn't execute scumbags band wagon for these two scumbags?
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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    correlation =/= causation, if that's what you were attempting to imply, LL.
    Exactly. This is the old cum hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy that if two events happen simultaneously one must cause the other. Thanks for that.
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