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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

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    IIRC we're quite a bit behind all those other countries and have some catching up to do.
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    2 - Iran - (at least) 127
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    6 - Saudi Arabia - (at least) 27

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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Targetting helpless harmless people is wrong and sets a bad example of how to deal with problems.

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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    In a way, I guess that's true. Not having Brewer in the community any more is certainly a service to the community.
    I made a long reply on this topic in the other thread. The short reply just to this: he was already out of the community and had been for a number of years.

    IIRC we're quite a bit behind all those other countries and have some catching up to do.
    Yeah, this is just kinda sad. "Well, others are worse than us" is not a good excuse.
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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I made a long reply on this topic in the other thread. The short reply just to this: he was already out of the community and had been for a number of years.
    As long as anyone is alive there is always the possibility he'll get out. Look at Charles Manson, he was sentenced to death but then it was commuted to life in prison. He's been up for parole several times and the only reason he hasn't gotten it is because of public outcry. The point is, he's eligible and one day, he just may get it.

    All that aside, I don't feel removing the threat from society is or should be the only goal of punishment. There should be an element of punishment that's simply because it's deserved.


    Yeah, this is just kinda sad. "Well, others are worse than us" is not a good excuse.
    You misunderstood my post. I was being a bit sarcastic. I don't believe we need an excuse. 47 out of a population of 300,000,000 really should show that the death penalty is not, just, frivolously applied.

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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    As long as anyone is alive there is always the possibility he'll get out. Look at Charles Manson, he was sentenced to death but then it was commuted to life in prison. He's been up for parole several times and the only reason he hasn't gotten it is because of public outcry. The point is, he's eligible and one day, he just may get it.

    All that aside, I don't feel removing the threat from society is or should be the only goal of punishment. There should be an element of punishment that's simply because it's deserved.
    We are back to the living in fear thing. I don't worry that on some occasion after 20, 30, 40 years some murderer may get out. Sometimes justice has costs. One of those in our current system where we declare it is better to let the guilty go than imprison the innocent is that we might let some one go who will turn around and commit more crimes. That is a worthwhile price to my mind.

    You misunderstood my post. I was being a bit sarcastic. I don't believe we need an excuse. 47 out of a population of 300,000,000 really should show that the death penalty is not, just, frivolously applied.
    If the number was 1 it would be too big if the death penalty is immoral. You remind me of the new breed of Holocaust denier. "Well, the Nazi's only killed a couple million jews, so it's not so bad". Once you cross the line, you are guilty. Crossing it again does not change the fact you are guilty.
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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    This partially comes down to how one perceives the penal system. Is it a mode for rehabilitation or a mode for punishment. When it comes to crimes like these, I see it as a mode for punishment. Based on that, I have no problem with the death penalty in these cases.
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    White supremacist executed for Texas dragging

    Lawrence Russell Brewer, 44, was asked if he had any final words, to which he replied: "No. I have no final statement." A single tear hung on the edge of his right eye.
    He was pronounced dead at 6:21 p.m., 10 minutes after the lethal drugs began flowing into his arms, both covered with intricate black tattoos.


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    Re: White supremacist executed for Texas dragging

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Lawrence Russell Brewer, 44, was asked if he had any final words, to which he replied: "No. I have no final statement." A single tear hung on the edge of his right eye.
    He was pronounced dead at 6:21 p.m., 10 minutes after the lethal drugs began flowing into his arms, both covered with intricate black tattoos.


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    dragging

    Sorry this is a duplicate post...I didnt see it was posted already can a mod delete it plz...I dont see how to delete it entirely

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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    I oppose the death penalty. Cases like this one test my beliefs, as this man was so obviously guilty and his crime was so horrible.

    But here I sit, still opposed.

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    Re: White supremacist executed for dragging death

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    I oppose the death penalty. Cases like this one test my beliefs, as this man was so obviously guilty and his crime was so horrible.

    But here I sit, still opposed.
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