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    Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Davis, 42, was put on death row 20 years ago for the 1989 murder of a police officer, Mark MacPhail, in Savannah following a fight with a homeless man over a bottle of beer. Since then seven out of the nine key witnesses who implicated him have recanted their evidence, several saying they were cajoled by police into giving false eye-witness statements.
    Another 10 have come forward to point the finger at a separate man present at the scene of the murder, Sylvester Coles.
    Meanwhile, no forensic or DNA evidence linking Davis to the shooting has ever been found, and nor has the murder weapon.
    So here we have 7 of the 9 witnesses at the trial recanting their testimony, saying that the police coerced them to give false testimony. We also have 10 witnesses coming forward, who say they saw a different man killing the officer. They even identified the killer. And there is NO physical evidence linking Davis to the crime. But that doesn't matter. The state of Georgia is about to commit premeditated murder. Does this mean that Georgia officials should, in turn, be executed by it's citizens? No, I do NOT advocate this, any more than I advocate the state murdering an innocent man.

    Rick Perry would be proud of Georgia. After all, when the Texas forensic board announced a finding that Perry did cause an innocent man to be executed here, he simply fired them all and replaced them with political cronies, who then shut down the investigation.

    Yes, most people on death row deserve it. But it is cases like this one in Georgia and the one in Texas that make me opposed to capital punishment. You just can't bring an innocent man back from the dead after you have murdered him. And state-sanctioned murder is exactly what this is. I find the state of Georgia guilty of capital murder.

    One more question? Had Davis been a white man, would he be going to the death chamber tonight? That's worth a debate too, so what do you think?

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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    So here we have 7 of the 9 witnesses at the trial recanting their testimony, saying that the police coerced them to give false testimony. We also have 10 witnesses coming forward, who say they saw a different man killing the officer. They even identified the killer. And there is NO physical evidence linking Davis to the crime. But that doesn't matter. The state of Georgia is about to commit premeditated murder. Does this mean that Georgia officials should, in turn, be executed by it's citizens? No, I do NOT advocate this, any more than I advocate the state murdering an innocent man.

    Rick Perry would be proud of Georgia. After all, when the Texas forensic board announced a finding that Perry did cause an innocent man to be executed here, he simply fired them all and replaced them with political cronies, who then shut down the investigation.

    Yes, most people on death row deserve it. But it is cases like this one in Georgia and the one in Texas that make me opposed to capital punishment. You just can't bring an innocent man back from the dead after you have murdered him. And state-sanctioned murder is exactly what this is. I find the state of Georgia guilty of capital murder.

    One more question? Had Davis been a white man, would he be going to the death chamber tonight? That's worth a debate too, so what do you think?

    Article is here.
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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Without physical evidence, you don't carry out the death penalty. IMO. Eye-witnesses have been proven to be horribly unreliable, I would never convict based on eye-witness testimony alone. If there is any doubt whatsoever, I would rather err (with life imprisonment) than kill an innocent man.

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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    So here we have 7 of the 9 witnesses at the trial recanting their testimony, saying that the police coerced them to give false testimony. We also have 10 witnesses coming forward, who say they saw a different man killing the officer. They even identified the killer. And there is NO physical evidence linking Davis to the crime. But that doesn't matter. The state of Georgia is about to commit premeditated murder. Does this mean that Georgia officials should, in turn, be executed by it's citizens? No, I do NOT advocate this, any more than I advocate the state murdering an innocent man.

    Rick Perry would be proud of Georgia. After all, when the Texas forensic board announced a finding that Perry did cause an innocent man to be executed here, he simply fired them all and replaced them with political cronies, who then shut down the investigation.

    Yes, most people on death row deserve it. But it is cases like this one in Georgia and the one in Texas that make me opposed to capital punishment. You just can't bring an innocent man back from the dead after you have murdered him. And state-sanctioned murder is exactly what this is. I find the state of Georgia guilty of capital murder.

    One more question? Had Davis been a white man, would he be going to the death chamber tonight? That's worth a debate too, so what do you think?

    Article is here.
    In such cases the Georgian officials should face the same punishement regarding premeditated murder as anyone who commits such a crime.
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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    I am for the death penalty but I do not think you should get such a punishment based only on eye witness testimony.
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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    If the governor doesn't pardon the execution, then the family should sue the state. Obviously, there are reasons to doubt his verdict.
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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    There is clear doubt. While I support the death penalty I don't support it when this much doubt exists.

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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    As an aside, Rick Perry didn't sentence anyone to die. Actually, the only way to get the death penalty in Texas is if jurors assess it. That's different than every other state where it's the judge who does the sentencing.

    Regarding eye witness testimony, think about this, if you're the victim of a crime and you're the only witness to it (because people typically don't commit crimes where there are lots of witnessess), do you believe the guy should not be prosecuted because nobody else was around to see it? Something to consider.
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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Regarding eye witness testimony, you should consider, if you're the victim of a crime and you're the only witness to it (because people typically don't commit crimes where there are lots of witnessess), do you believe the guy should not be prosecuted because nobody else was around to see it? Something to consider.
    Noone is saying they shouldn't be prosecuted, only that the death penalty shouldn't apply based off of eye witness testimony only.

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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Noone is saying they shouldn't be prosecuted, only that the death penalty shouldn't apply based off of eye witness testimony only.
    So, as long as the guy is good about leaving no physical evidence, he could commit mass murder in front of 50 people and he shouldn't get the death penalty (I ask with sincerity)?

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