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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    BTW, there is going to be a rally and march in Austin, Texas, on Oct 11, 2011:

    Dear Rick Perry: We have not forgotten what you did. Before his execution, Todd Willingham said, “Please don’t ever stop fighting to vindicate me.” On October 22, 2011 we will remind the nation about Rick Perry’s role in the execution of Todd Willingham and his Richard Nixon-like interference in the investigation of the Willingham case by the Texas Forensic Science Commission at the 12th Annual March to Abolish the Death Penalty at the Texas Capitol in Austin. We invite everyone to attend the march and rally.
    In Texas, what Perry did is never going to go away, and I hope it is the same in Georgia with what they are about to do.

    Read more about the murder that Perry committed here.
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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    If there was no physical evidence ( which the chances of that happening would be close to nil) I would rather err on the side of caution and do life in prison without the possibility of parole.

    One innocent life being snubbed by the state is one too many.
    How about innocent lives snubbed out by a released convict? There really is no such thing as "life without parole" because, while a judge/jury can impose it, a parole board can always change it.

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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If you are going to execute a man wouldn't you want solid physical evidence that man did what it is he was convicted of?
    Absolutely JamesRage, but I'm not prepared to say that an eye witness account is never solid enough evidence.

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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    How about innocent lives snubbed out by a released convict? There really is no such thing as "life without parole" because, while a judge/jury can impose it, a parole board can always change it.
    Between executing an innocent man and releasing a guilty one, I believe the execution of the innocent man is the greater of the two evils.

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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by Chenoa View Post
    Of course he should. But it's highly unlikely that 50 eyewitnesses to a mass murder have any reason to lie. In the Troy Davis case, that doesn't seem to fit the circumstances of what happened.

    We're lucky that in the last couple of decades DNA and forensics have made huge strides. Not to mention that it's more than likely you'll be on camera. It is "mainstream knowledge" now that eyewitness testimony is rarely credible. Usually people trained in law-enforcement and security are better at it than the rest of us. We just don't pay attention and when we're forced too (as in a robbery or rape), terror usually skews what we remember. Just my opinion.
    So I return to my original question. If you, as the victim, are the sole witness to a mugging (say), the guy is caught and you ID him. Should the police just inform you they're releasing the guy and not bringing charges because the only evidence it's him is your ID?

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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I am in favor of sending 100 Innocent men to their deaths in order to ensure that every guilty one ends up there. It isn't my PREFERENCE for how it should work, but in order to ensure that the guilty end up getting their just rewards, that's the way it has to work.
    As a man who is for the death penalty because there are some humans that are unfortunatelty not worth the risk of salvaging....but to make a statement like this is incredibly inhumane and just stupid

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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    So I return to my original question. If you, as the victim, are the sole witness to a mugging (say), the guy is caught and you ID him. Should the police just inform you they're releasing the guy and not bringing charges because the only evidence it's him is your ID?
    In many cases if your property isn't on the person and there is no physical evidence they won't arrest someone anyway. Not sure where your even trying to go with this?

    As for your question about the convict, it is a greater crime to have the state execute an innocent man than to release a guilty one.

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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I am in favor of sending 100 Innocent men to their deaths in order to ensure that every guilty one ends up there. It isn't my PREFERENCE for how it should work, but in order to ensure that the guilty end up getting their just rewards, that's the way it has to work.
    I wonder if you'll feel this way if you are one of the innocent people being sent to death "in order to ensure that every guilty one ends up there."
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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    So I return to my original question. If you, as the victim, are the sole witness to a mugging (say), the guy is caught and you ID him. Should the police just inform you they're releasing the guy and not bringing charges because the only evidence it's him is your ID?
    Oh they'll bring charges on him with just my ID, but in reality the charges wouldn't stand up in front of jury. Actually, it would never make it in front of a jury, charges would be dropped for lack of evidence (by the prosecutor) after trying to make a deal. And unless you had a really nervous mugger, he would refuse a deal because he'd know that they had nothing but an eyewitness. And, as much as it would gall me, they'd be correct to do so. With no evidence whatsoever (I believe that's what you're saying), the cost of trying to win a conviction is really just not worth it.
    I love how, in scary movies, the person yells out, "Hello?" As if the bad guy is gonna be like, "Yeah, I'm in the kitchen! Want a sandwich?"

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