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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Cover Your Ass.

    Plain and simple.

    The cops and prosecution in this case will see irreparable damage to their careers if it comes out that they almost killed an innocent man (which lets the ACTUAL perpetrator off scott free, in case you guys were conveniently forgetting that in your bloodlust).
    A point I brought up yesterday.

    So they circle the wagons and put their heads down and play code of silence, instead of owning up and facing JUSTICE. Which is why its DISGUSTING when it happens. Because JUSTICE is supposed to be their JOB, remember?

    Sorry, this just pisses me off. Imagine lying strapped to a table with needles in your arm, KNOWING, you didn't do what you are about to be killed for. Makes me want to slap the **** out of everybody who pulled a "too bad, so sad. C-ya wouldn't want to be ya" attitude about this. But I don't have the time or energy to slap that many people, so this'll have to do.
    Fine, be pissed all you want, but at least recognize the irony of wishing somebody else (anyone who disagrees with you on this) would also executed for something they didn't do in order to satisfy your bloodlust.
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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I apologize if that is the way it came off. I never intended to imply that if you are for the death penalty then you "wish for innocent people to be put to death." Of course you want just the guilty to be killed. But there is no judicial system that can produce a 100% proof positive way of killing only the guilty. Therefore you have to be willing to permit executing innocents at some rate in order to fulfill a desire to kill the guilty. There is no way around that.

    There is no 100% proof-positive system in killing just the guilty in a death penalty system but executions are 100% proof-positive in not being reversible.
    I think it would be possible to require a standard of evidence that would make mistaken killings vanishingly rare.

    What's disgusting is that a relatively inexpensive DNA test would put a lot of this crap to rest, one way or the other, probably saving money AND increasing confidence in our justice system, by freeing the innocent and shutting up the appealing guilty.

    My bet is FAR too many political/bureaucratic careers would be damaged by doing so, so they foght review to cover their asses.

    And every single person who is complicit, every time it happens is guilty of first degree murder. By definition. Murder weapon? The State.
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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You mean except for the 500 or so people demonstrating outside the prison? And those posting about it on message boards. And those talking about it among friends?

    As best I can tell, the problem came down to the law. The law lays out the procedures, and they where followed. Once convicted, the standard of proof is changed, and there are rules for what can get him new trials, and what can get his case overturned, and so on.
    So in other words the operation was a success, but the patient died.

    RRRRRRR...
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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    something woth pondering


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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post

    And don't bother trying to brand me as soft.

    I think the surely guilty of heinous crimes should sit alone in a cell with nothing but a picture of their victims to look at. Until they die in gibbering madness.

    The death penalty is far too clean a death for some.
    Ohhhhh sitting an a jail cell with a picture. You are a hard ass. It's annoying when someone who's anti-death penalty tries to act all hard and like they're that way because the death penalty is just too easy. It's such bull****.

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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    something woth pondering


    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy.

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    I thought the issue here was that the law, itself, potentially failed, not that the government disregarded or broke it.

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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    So in other words the operation was a success, but the patient died.

    RRRRRRR...
    More like the operation went exactly as planned, but the plan was flawed.
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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    the only positive that one could possibly take from this is that Troy Davis' death will give birth to more activists against the death penalty.

    the death penalty supporters who expressed doubt in this case will now begin to doubt an entire system that can execute a man amidst so many unanswered questions.
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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Yeah, I noticed none of the death penalty opponents in this thread (except PoweRob) had anything to say in that thread. Why is that?
    And I noticed you made it a point to avoid answering the long post I made to you in this thread. Why is that?

    See how that works?
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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    the only positive that one could possibly take from this is that Troy Davis' death will give birth to more activists against the death penalty.

    the death penalty supporters who expressed doubt in this case will now begin to doubt an entire system that can execute a man amidst so many unanswered questions.
    The 'death penalty activists' are SO involved that they wil....SQUIRREL!!!!

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