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I wasn't over there for two reasons: 1) I was on this thread and watching CNN; and 2) the reasons I stated above, but I'm not proud of it. More perplexed.
I love how, in scary movies, the person yells out, "Hello?" As if the bad guy is gonna be like, "Yeah, I'm in the kitchen! Want a sandwich?"
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THATS why they defend them so stridently.
I hope everyone who supports this the way it went down enjoys the same justice as Troy Davis.
And his family and friends.
How in the **** did they get a death penalty conviction with NO physical evidence in the first place?
It would be nice if our legal system had prosecutors who sought justice instead of convictions. But that's not the case. Their actual JOB is to convict people, to prosecute. Its not in their job description to make sure only the guilty go to prison. Notches in the belt.
Id love to know where the prosecution in this case is today. LE involved too. Just their current jobs and some indication how much this case propelled their careers.
So maybe THEIR kids are better off, so some good came of this.
And don't bother trying to brand me as soft.
I think the surely guilty of heinous crimes should sit alone in a cell with nothing but a picture of their victims to look at. Until they die in gibbering madness.
The death penalty is far too clean a death for some.
But if you're on death row and there is DNA evidence available that could prove innocence, anyone who opposes running what is now a simple test is an ASSHOLE of the highest order. Frees the innocent and shuts the guilty the **** up.
But we don't do this, because it could damage the responsible prosecutions political career. "Vote for Bob! He didn't send an innocent man to his death".
In the case of the first, the victim is irrelevant to the reason for opposing the death penalty. The concept is that the government simply should not be killing people outside of war, that it is morally wrong. If it is morally wrong, then justice, which should be the goal of a judicial system, is not served by killing some one. While you can feel for the victim of the crime, you cannot undo the crime by killing any one. As far as the criminal, it has nothing to do with sympathy for them. If for example it is wrong to steal, then it is still wrong to steal from a mean, nasty person. If it is wrong for the government to sanction killing in the name of justice, then this is true whether the person is nice or nasty. Morality does not depend on who you are acting towards, but on how you act.
In the second case, the goal is to not dispense injustice. The person holds to the concept that it is to not execute a guilty person than to execute an innocent man. Again, there is no sympathy for the guilty, only concern for the innocent. In both cases, it is easy to justify that society is protected equally well by life in prison as by execution, as is the victim.
I used the torture example in my earlier post, and I think that helps make it clear. If you feel that torture is morally or legally wrong, then this is true even if the person in question is totally vile. I do not care about his well being, I care about doing what is right, even when that is not easy. I feel no sympathy whatsoever for those we waterboarded. Hell, I hope it hurt like hell and made their life hell. I still do not think we should have done it as it is morally wrong to torture.
Sawwwwweeeeeeeet. More very compassionate individuals that really really really CARE. As of...what time was thread posted? Yesterday?
i for one will be more than happy to participate in it if i'm still around.
just a thought of course.
Why do we fall?
So we can learn to pick ourselves up.
Plain and simple.
The cops and prosecution in this case will see irreparable damage to their careers if it comes out that they almost killed an innocent man (which lets the ACTUAL perpetrator off scott free, in case you guys were conveniently forgetting that in your bloodlust).
So they circle the wagons and put their heads down and play code of silence, instead of owning up and facing JUSTICE. Which is why its DISGUSTING when it happens. Because JUSTICE is supposed to be their JOB, remember?
Sorry, this just pisses me off. Imagine lying strapped to a table with needles in your arm, KNOWING, you didn't do what you are about to be killed for. Makes me want to slap the **** out of everybody who pulled a "too bad, so sad. C-ya wouldn't want to be ya" attitude about this. But I don't have the time or energy to slap that many people, so this'll have to do.