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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    I have to be honest, I'm Chinese so I am for death penalty. I think people who killed others in a wanton and brutal manner should repay with their own lives. This is to discourage future incidents. However, in this case, Mr. Davis's case is clouded with contradicting evidences. I understand the family of the police officer wants justice, but if you kill the wrong man, not only you don't get justice, you end up w/ the blood of an innocent on your hand. You are no better than a murder. I think the Geogia need to put in another full investigation, re-comb the evidences and witnesses again. If he is still found guilty, then no problem send him to die. But if the evidence didn't point to him after a thorough investigation, then you will have put an innocent man to death for a crime he did not commit. That is a crime and a tragedy in itself!

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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post

    how can some total stranger assume that by sentencing the offender to death, things will automatically be squared up? it's not and it never will be. it won't bring closure, that has to come from within.
    The death penalty should not be about vengeance.

    It should be about ridding ourselves of a particularly malevolent presence, once and for all.

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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    We should really abolish the death penalty. It's expensive and justice is blind. People have been murdered by the state on charges they were innocent of. If a person is wrongfully jailed they can be set free and compensated. If you execute an innocent person the only thing the state can do is go "oops!"
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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Did you know that Bundy went to your state because it had a death penalty. He had a death wish.
    I do know if bundy got executed the first time they caught him...there would be alot of young women that werent tortured and murdered

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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    We should really abolish the death penalty. It's expensive and justice is blind. People have been murdered by the state on charges they were innocent of. If a person is wrongfully jailed they can be set free and compensated. If you execute an innocent person the only thing the state can do is go "oops!"
    I wouldn't worry about it. The body count of innocents will always be much, much higher on the side where the CJS f*cks up and either wrongfully exonerates a guilty man or underprosecutes him, and he subsequently kills again.

    To be sure, the CJS has a lot more blood on its hands for wrongful exonerations and underprosecutions, than it ever will for wrongful convictions in death penalty cases. If we are to argue against capital punishment on the grounds of human fallability, then we should also argue against the Great Writ of habeas corpus on the same grounds. After all, would it not be more prudent to retain custody of a defendant who is acqutted by a jury in a death penalty case wherein considerable danming evidence is presented during trial? What if he really is guilty and kills another innocent person subsequent to his release?

    In the end, the law must choose in the face of objective uncertainty, even in matters of life and death. There is no way around this. The CJS could just as easily have acquitted Davis and released him back into society, only to have him shoot yet another police officer to death, or the CJS could have commuted his sentence to 'life without parole', only to have him murder an inmate or C.O. soon after being released into prison general population. In both instances, the CJS would have the blood of the innocent on its hands, no differently than they would for executing Davis after wrongfully convicting him (if that is even the case here).

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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    It appears last I looked that the SC is going to at least look at the case and possibly order a stay.
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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    If the governor doesn't pardon the execution, then the family should sue the state. Obviously, there are reasons to doubt his verdict.
    Something should be done. This is entirely ****ed up. Most people like to argue that they are for the death penalty because with dna evidence and all that, nobody innocent will ever die... yeah right. They are refusing to make sure that they aren't killing an innocent man. This is entirely insane and disgusting. The supreme court obviously needs to get involved and make sure this **** doesn't happen.

    Witness testimony is horrible evidence to boot. My sister used to work for the county and had her undergrad in psychology. She later decided to change her career and become a lawyer after talking to numerous people who were wrongly put away based on faulty witness testimony.

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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by Chenoa View Post
    Of course he should. But it's highly unlikely that 50 eyewitnesses to a mass murder have any reason to lie. In the Troy Davis case, that doesn't seem to fit the circumstances of what happened.

    We're lucky that in the last couple of decades DNA and forensics have made huge strides. Not to mention that it's more than likely you'll be on camera. It is "mainstream knowledge" now that eyewitness testimony is rarely credible. Usually people trained in law-enforcement and security are better at it than the rest of us. We just don't pay attention and when we're forced too (as in a robbery or rape), terror usually skews what we remember. Just my opinion.
    DNA evidence doesn't prove guilt... it can help build a very creditable case though.

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    Re: Troy Davis execution: Georgia pardons board denies plea for clemency

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I am disappointed in my state today
    Have you seen many protests?

    It is very sad indeed. Killing a person won't make anything, especially not killing an innocent person. I think Georgia is making the death of an off duty officer a lot worse for the community. I am wondering what is wrong with the politicians in your state though. Why would they be against investigating his innocence? What hell? It's mind boggling and scary.

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