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Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

Businesses are not going to hire more workers with the current economic conditions but as usual you focus on the big businesses, not the small businesses which hire 80% of the workers. The small businesses are hit the hardest by Obama economic policy, the big businesses will just do more with less thank to technology.

It is the same with both. If there is a customer, there will be a service. Taxes play little to no role. Business, big or small, will step up if there is a need to do so.
 
One reason they do not need people is that technology has replaced people. Look at a company like Facebook with a market valuation in the 10's of billions. Guess how many people they employ..............2,500

For such a self-proclaimed business expert you should be aware of things like this.

And how many employees do you think they should have?

Fifteen years ago they had no employees but someone started a business and created employment and a great deal of wealth. How much wealth has the Department of Energy ever created?
 
It is the same with both. If there is a customer, there will be a service. Taxes play little to no role. Business, big or small, will step up if there is a need to do so.

What is your experience in running a business? You are absolutely wrong about taxes not playing a role in business especially small businesses. There are many different taxes that business pays and you are naive to believe they don't play a role. Obama has created such uncertainty that no small business is going to hire people based upon that uncertaintly. Until you put yourself in that position all the book smarts in the world aren't going to create credibility.
 
Don't know if you did or didn't, but I'm corect about what I said. Business isn't waiting around on the president if they ahve customwers. Sorry, but you're wrong.

Oh, but they are waiting around, the world economy sucks, the DOW lost 700 points in the last two days on fears of a weaker economy abroad and at home. The uncertainty of our tax policy, Obamacare, more regulations are all sucking the wind out of businesses to do anything except wait and see. Businesses are not growing or expanding, proof is the consistent unemployment rate. Now I'm sure there are some businesses that are gaining customers but they are doing without new employees because tomorrow these new customers may be gone because of the items I described. Businesses need stability, and in today's environment there is none.
 
What is your experience in running a business? You are absolutely wrong about taxes not playing a role in business especially small businesses. There are many different taxes that business pays and you are naive to believe they don't play a role. Obama has created such uncertainty that no small business is going to hire people based upon that uncertaintly. Until you put yourself in that position all the book smarts in the world aren't going to create credibility.
what was your experience? you didnt make the big decisions, you didnt produce any products or provide any service, you were a low level lackey who took orders from the higher ups....your misrepresenting yourself...
 
What is your experience in running a business? You are absolutely wrong about taxes not playing a role in business especially small businesses. There are many different taxes that business pays and you are naive to believe they don't play a role. Obama has created such uncertainty that no small business is going to hire people based upon that uncertaintly. Until you put yourself in that position all the book smarts in the world aren't going to create credibility.

You just love to paint with a broad brush don't ya.

Owner of Prestige Limousines, Inc., in Boca Raton, Fla.

I own a limousine company in Florida and I service three areas: Dade County, Broward County and Palm Beach County. All three counties have their own charter and their own regulations for limo companies.
We will start with Miami, which is Dade County. You have to buy a permit, which costs anywhere from $10,000 to $15,000. Once you acquire that permit, you have to find a vehicle to put that permit on. And it has to be no older than five years old. Once that car is five years old, you have to go out and buy a new one, no matter what kind of condition you keep it in.

You have to get the car inspected every year. And you have to renew the luxury sedan permit every year. It would be better if you could buy just one permit for your entire fleet. But you have to buy one for each car and each car permit costs $675.

In addition to county regulations, I also have to deal with federal ones, which come from the Department of Transportation. I have a bus and the driver has to get certified under the DOT. The driver also has to get a commercial driver's license, which costs $300.
Keeping compliant is a full-time job for me. That is what I do. That is all I do. There is a huge responsibility when it comes to the regulations here in South Florida.
It is not something that you can pass on to staff members because if they mess up, you can get fined for not being in compliance. And the fines are very, very steep. The DOT can also shut you down.

Regulation nightmares - Keeping compliant is a full-time job (2) - CNNMoney

The bolded above are LOCAL regulations on small business.
 
You just love to paint with a broad brush don't ya.



The bolded above are LOCAL regulations on small business.

on top of those comes the Federal regulations so why the duplication and why the Federal micromanaging.
 
For the most part this discussion is an arguement between two neighbors who have just been through a tornado, have had both of their houses destroyed and they are argueing over one of their dogs crapping in the others yard.

The problem is the deficit. No amount of tax increases will solve that. I've argued over and over that all taxes should be taxed as income. That would force the Buffetts to pay a good bit more in taxes......again though, nowhere do I see that proposed. We then argue about raising the income tax rate on the rich when many of them have little to no actual income. You could raise the rate to 90% of everything over $100,000 and Buffett isn't even going to notice.

The problem will remain the deficit. I would give Obama a tax increase over $250,000. It's not really going to amount to a hill of beans, but it has to be combined with a real deficit program that starts NOW. Not at some hopeful time in the future. Sure, it's going to hurt but it's the only answer.

But yeah, continue argueing over whose dog crapped in the yard.
 
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on top of those comes the Federal regulations so why the duplication and why the Federal micromanaging.

The fed regulation mentioned in the article was licensing DOT required of a bus driver, 300 bucks.

I don't think that is a giant hurdle and can see a need for that.
 
The fed regulation mentioned in the article was licensing DOT required of a bus driver, 300 bucks.

I don't think that is a giant hurdle and can see a need for that.

There are more Federal taxes and regulations than that, talk about cherrypicking. I have a good idea for people like you, let's dissolve all the state goverments and let the Feds run it all? That seems to be what you and others want
 
There are more Federal taxes and regulations than that, talk about cherrypicking. I have a good idea for people like you, let's dissolve all the state goverments and let the Feds run it all? That seems to be what you and others want

LOL!!!! Talk about painting with a broad brush!

Here is another example where States regulate the hell out of something:
Wesley Keegan
Owner of TailGate Beer in San Diego

I started brewing beer as a hobby, which turned into a business. I legally started TailGateBeer in 2007, and sold my first kegs in 2008.
Craft beer is a billion-dollar industry and growing at 10% per year. It's even done well during the recession.
I use a facility in the Midwest to brew my beer, 62,000 gallons at a time. Nine months ago, we were only in San Diego county. Now TailGateBeer is in six states. By the end of the year, it will be in at least eight.
Despite the growth, the industry is highly regulated and makes running the business challenging.
First of all, every state has different regulations. And we have to keep track of all of them. And that's not so easy, because everyday there are new changes and announcements.

One regulation is that we can't advertise where we sell beer on Facebook and Twitter.
Then there are the taxes. We are taxed when we brew, when we ship, when we import and when we export to different states. We are also taxed when we sell to distributors or retailers.
And if we have a violation, we really pay for it. Some of the fines are up to six figures.
The bottom line is that it is easier to sell pot in this country than beer. And that's the truth.

Regulation nightmares - "It seems like we are running in circles" (6) - CNNMoney

OHHHH RAH for States rights killing business!
 
LOL!!!! Talk about painting with a broad brush!

Here is another example where States regulate the hell out of something:


OHHHH RAH for States rights killing business!

You can move out of a state, hard to move out of a country. That is what is going to happen if Obama gets his tax increase on the rich. They are going to look to lower tax states and move there. More and more people are already leaving Illinois, California, and NY to move to TX and Florida, why? Guess they must love that TX humidity.
 
Who said taxes don't matter? how do you explain the growth of Fortune 500 businesses in TX?

Houston Strategies: Texas #1 in Fortune 500s, Houston gains
Wow, so again you're supporting the EXACT SAME PLAN Reagan, Bush 1 and Bush 2 implement that increased the deficit each and every year of their time serving as president.

You don't have the right to complain about the deficit ever again. At least not if you don't want to be considered a hypocrite.
 
Wow, so again you're supporting the EXACT SAME PLAN Reagan, Bush 1 and Bush 2 implement that increased the deficit each and every year of their time serving as president.

You don't have the right to complain about the deficit ever again. At least not if you don't want to be considered a hypocrite.

Tax cuts don't increase the deficit, spending does. As has been shown, tax revenue grew AFTER the Reagan and Bush tax rate cuts were fully implemented, explain why? Like all liberals you want badly to buy the Obama rhetoric but all Obama does is lie to you.
 
And this has what to do with your complaint about regulation?

Regulations cost business and are added to the taxes as a business expense. Businesses are always going to look for places that have lower tax burden
 
Regulations cost business and are added to the taxes as a business expense. Businesses are always going to look for places that have lower tax burden

Earlier in thread you said:

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Businesses are not going to hire more workers with the current economic conditions but as usual you focus on the big businesses, not the small businesses which hire 80% of the workers.

So now you are switching gears to big business?
 
Tax cuts don't increase the deficit, spending does. As has been shown, tax revenue grew AFTER the Reagan and Bush tax rate cuts were fully implemented, explain why? Like all liberals you want badly to buy the Obama rhetoric but all Obama does is lie to you.
I don't particularly care if Reagan turned lead into gold. He increased the deficit and it's the exact same policies he used you're now trying to push again.

We've already deregulated ourselves into a near depression and you want to continue with more deregulations. Amazing.

Today we need to increase jobs to get the economy moving and pay for it. The only folks that have left the recession unscathed are the rich. If we need to tap them to get the rest of our society moving, they should absolutely pony up. What you're promoting is a fairytale and would require America to continue to borrow to avoid falling into third world status. If you want a third world so bad, have your rich buddies moving to one.
 
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