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Grow your own.I hardly think some one can avoid (not buy) a ConAgra product in the food chain.
Grow your own.I hardly think some one can avoid (not buy) a ConAgra product in the food chain.
Some people just cannot stand the idea of freedom or of liberty. I count you among them.The rich may have to pay a little more in taxes. WAAAAAAAAAA!
The divide between the rich and the poor might actually close a tiny morsel. WAAAAAAAAAAA!
"Class warfare." WAAAAAAAAAAA!
The top tax bracket might actually nudge a bit closer to the Nixon tax rates or the Eisenhower tax rates. WAAAAAAAAAAAA!
The rich may have to start buying slightly smaller yachts. WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
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Christ! What is up with the crybabiness??
How does one give a federal income tax break to one who pays no federal income tax? About half of us do not pay anything. A percentage of those get a redistribution of wealth payment from the government.5% of the population will not and simply cannot consume as much as the remaining 95%. So giving tax cuts to the 95% will have a much better impact on consumer demand.
I hate to break this to you, but this thread isn't about the 2009 stimulus bill.
Nice try though
Both of you are actually left....Which leads me to believe...AdamT and I were right.
Some people just cannot stand the idea of freedom or of liberty. I count you among them.
Some people just cannot stand the idea of freedom or of liberty. I count you among them.
save the hyperbole.
the whiny wealthy can afford to pay more in income taxes, while the poor & middle-class really can't.
I love it when conservatives bring up freedom and liberty. You mean of course the freedom and liberty for gays to have their marriages recognized by the state? Do you mean the freedom and liberty to take marijuanna? Do you mean the freedom to protest instead of "free speech" zones implemented? Do you mean the freedom and liberty to burn a flag? Do you mean the freedom and liberty to not have television censored?
Oh you just meant freedom and liberty for YOUR ideas only right?
Face it, conservatives really don't have a leg to stand on with freedom and liberty since the majority of the
have NO problem themselves with using government to enforce their anti-freedom and anti-liberty acts.
The reality is the wealthy can pay more. There are legitimate questions around how to do it. Obama's approach is to leave this broken tax system to continue and add a few more complexities like a new AMT, when the current AMT is broken. Or do we do what we did I think in 1986 during a divided government and materially change the tax system.
Also this whole tax the rich or not issue is a sideshow because neither side is coming up with substantive solutions to the long term problems of the US economy.
You want your marriage recognized by the state, get the state to approve it. There is nothing in the Constitution that mentions marriage. Keep pushing and the country will enact a Constitutional Amendment against gay marriage since most don't believe in it.
Seems that liberals believe only in the freedoms that they support but not the freedom others support. This is a country of laws, you don't like the law, get it changed, if you cannot get it changed live by it.
Yes, this nation is a nation of laws. So if it is determined that the rich pay more taxes, then they should work to change it if they don't like it, if they can't then live by it. Seems conservatives don't understand that.
No I for once want a demo to give a show of good faith, instead of promising spending cuts that never materialize.
J-mac
This is easy. Republicans to the president and democrats: "We agree. Write it down, put it in a bill, and we'll sign." This is not hard.
"Your" President has promoted class warfare, has proposed nothing in cuts and has no clue how to lead. How long is it going to take for you to realize that? His resume showed that but you ignore it.
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No, the class warfare is coming from your side. You see working folk as evil and rich folk as gods to be appeased. You have a guy who spends 200K to feed his family and worries about only having 381K instead of 400K extra. But deounce a teacher who has a pension.
No, the class warfare is from you guys. :coffeepap
Class warfare is a rich issue? Name for me one rich person that cares how much you or somone else makes or pays in taxes? You seem to believe it is the rich's responsibility to send you or anyone else a check? You seem to believe it is ok for 65 million working Americans to pay zero FIT but have no problem going after the 1% that pays 38% of the taxes. You really need to look up the definition of class warfare and when you do you will see Obama's picture by that definition along with millions of people just like you.
Try and read what I wrote again. Maybe if you read it slow you will understand better.
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Understand it completely, it isn't the rich that are concerned about teacher's pensions, it is all the taxpayers that fund those pensions who had no say in the creation of those pensions. Show me where that class warfare is that you claim is coming from the rich?
What makes you an expert on what someone else needs or spends on themselves or their family? Why is it the Federal government's role to take care of social issues in your community?
Are you rich? Please point to where I say the rich are concerned about the poor?
No, you do not understand what I wrote at all it appears. :coffeepap
You said the rich promote class warfare and that is a broad brush with no proof to support it.
The rich won't be protesting in the streets because all they need to do is pay off Republican legislators to make sure the law won't pass. That's what you call a no-brainer.You won't see rich people in the streets protesting if such a law is passed but in the meantime you will see people pointing out the hypocrisy of liberals in promoting such a law. If it is determined that the rich should pay more in taxes, the top 1% or about 1.4 million people, then don't expect me to stop pointing out the irrelevance of taxes on that number and how little it will provide to the Federal Govt. thus a drop in the bucket in the overall scope of our economy.
No he didn't say rich people, he said your side. If you aren't rich, he's not talking about rich people.
You said the rich promote class warfare and that is a broad brush with no proof to support it.
No he didn't say rich people, he said your side. If you aren't rich, he's not talking about rich people.