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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    GM recently surpassed Toyota as the world's largest auto seller. GM, Chrysler, and Ford are all doing pretty well.

    South Korea is the real tiger in the auto world, with Kia and Hyundai rapidly improving both quality and sales.
    Lets see 2 out of 3 American auto companies had to be bailed out by tax payer money "aka government"
    The controling stocks of Chrysler went to Fiat.
    UAW is making a move for controling stocks of GM "OH NO UNIONS"
    American Auto exports X, Foriegn Auto imports XXX

    Alternitive fuel has became another talking point nothing more.

    Funny, I don't see the American Auto industry doing that well.
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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    So they go out of business, and the next time those services are needed the taxpayers are on the hook to train another contractor to do the same work ... while paying for the defunct contractor's employees' unemployment/welfare/retraining.
    No. No. No. No. No.

    Someone else bids on the work and they get the contract.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah there is, if its services are not needed the tax payers aren't on the hook
    As long as corporations have a golden parachute for bailouts in case profits drop ,as long as grants are needed by corporations, taxpayers will always be on the hook
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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Even the rightwing republicans don't believe that
    This is one of the reasons I do not like you. I can take nothing you report at face value. You are untrustworthy.


    http://bit.ly/qtKm00Brownback, a Republican, also said that reforming the state's regulatory and legal framework for the agriculture industry would attract new investment to Kansas. He said his administration would soon announce proposals for lowering the top rate of the state income tax, The Topeka Capital Journal reported.


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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    There's a lot of unemployed people out here that don't care about the "differance" they care about jobs.
    Right. And you don't get jobs from the government. That road leads to right where we are. Bankruptcy...
    The government needs to get out of the way. It needs to eliminate most of the 80,000 regulations that cost businesses a trillion dollars a year to comply with. And it needs to reduce taxes on corporations to below the current lowest rate in the first world.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Wow!

    I cannot understand how little people know about things.
    When it is a government job the government, meaning the half of us that pay the taxes, are on the hook for pay, benefits, health care, and retirement. That sucking sound you hear is cash being sucked out of taxpayer wallets.
    When it is a private job the individual is on the hook.

    When I buy software my liability extends only to the price of the software. If I amply the software engineer my liability extends much further.
    That empty sound you here is the millions of out of work Americans not paying taxes.
    So those that have jobs that are not only paying taxes for themselves but every unemployed worker in America.
    So the more jobs that are outsourced the more taxes fall on those that have jobs.
    That software you buy today may have a differant tax on it in the future.
    When taxes get extended perhaps then your liability will be extended.
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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Let me get this straight ,
    Well, we can try but I have my doubts.
    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    you are asking for less government workers who pay no taxes,
    This makes no sense. Government workers consume tax dollars. They do not produce wealth. They consume it.
    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    we already have a lot less private workers paying no taxes, we have the working poor not paying taxes,
    Do you agree with me that the bottom half of wage earners ought to pay their fair share of federal income taxes? Then we agree.
    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    we have tax cuts for the rich because they pay taxes.
    You do realize that you are duped? Brainwashed?
    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Sooo, about this 15 trillion dollar debt, about the loan to China for 93, milllion and other debt, who's going to pay that?
    Huh? Do you think government workers are paying down the debt?

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    If you are unemployed and your last unemployment check is on it's way, the dollar you have in your pocket you might want to keep.
    Did you add this line just for its amusement value? What does it have to do with anything?

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    As far as buying American products not creating jobs.
    That takes a lot of guilt off the growing American consumer that are buying foriegn products.
    That old "be a patriot buy American" kinda left with the jobs anyway.
    So to the American corporations that want to sell their products; I say BON CHANCE, GOOD LUCK IN FORIEGN COUNTRIES WITH FORIEGN CONSUMERS..
    That was a tiring ramble.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    That empty sound you here is the millions of out of work Americans not paying taxes.
    So those that have jobs that are not only paying taxes for themselves but every unemployed worker in America.
    So the more jobs that are outsourced the more taxes fall on those that have jobs.
    That software you buy today may have a differant tax on it in the future.
    When taxes get extended perhaps then your liability will be extended.
    I think I am just going to ignore you for a while.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Right. And you don't get jobs from the government. That road leads to right where we are. Bankruptcy...
    The government needs to get out of the way. It needs to eliminate most of the 80,000 regulations that cost businesses a trillion dollars a year to comply with. And it needs to reduce taxes on corporations to below the current lowest rate in the first world.
    You know that sounds vaguely familiar, all that the government needs to get out of the way it need to eliminate most of the 80,000 regulations that cost business a trillion dllars a year, and it needs to reduce taxes on corporations.

    Of course it wasn't expalined with such nice words.

    Reagan we need the rich to have more money then it will trickle down to the poor the late 70's

    Palin "We need the government out of our business and corporations business"June2008

    McCain "the government is not needed by corporate or private business, the American economy is strong August 2008

    Corporations " we are going bankrupt we need money from the government, September 2008

    Corporations "once we recieve our bailout money we can hire more American workers" LATE SEPTEMBER 2008

    After recieving bailout money the corporations laid off more American workers.
    Which brings us to where we are now, "BAD ECONOMY, BIG DEBT, NO MONEY CIRCULATION, HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT

    So I say if Corporations want to deal, lets deal but hire American workers with a contract first.

    If not I remind you where you are sir, this is the "UNITED" STATES OF AMERICA, UNITED WE WILL STAND OR "UNITED" WE WILL FALL.
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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Lets see 2 out of 3 American auto companies had to be bailed out by tax payer money "aka government"
    The controling stocks of Chrysler went to Fiat.
    UAW is making a move for controling stocks of GM "OH NO UNIONS"
    American Auto exports X, Foriegn Auto imports XXX

    Alternitive fuel has became another talking point nothing more.

    Funny, I don't see the American Auto industry doing that well.
    That was a fairly fact-free reply. Well, I guess there were xxx facts.

    Here's a fact: GM sells more cars in China than it does in the U.S. Last year GM posted its first profit since 2004. This year it is profitable in all four regions in which it operates.

    In May Chrysler reported its first profitable quarter in five years and its new models have been well reviewed.

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