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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Or, if you are not in approval of that arrangement, you can exercise your ultimate right of free choice and do what the Pilgrims did four centuries ago.
    But Barrack Obama will try to follow no matter where you go, in order to get your money. Some countries have acquiesced to US pressure, like Costa Rica (which may go back to ignoring them), others have fought back, like Canada.

    Canadian finance minister tells IRS to back off - Bill Mann's Canada - MarketWatch

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not at all. There are plenty of regulations on business now, that unions have become little more than organized thugs is apparent today. Tell me, when was the last time you can remember that a union strike had anything to do with safety in the workplace? Or for that matter child labor? No, they are nearly 100% today about strangling the business for ever more until that business can no longer sustain their business, then that business either goes under, or moves out of country, and the libs blame it on greed.....It's greed all right, greed from a small percentage of the total workforce that are only recognized as the workers of America by the democrat hacks that cater to them.

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    As I said in some ways unions have become beasts.

    But how is that any different than the republican hacks that cater to corporations that move overseas or let go of their employees just right before they have to pay retirement or pensions?

    There has to be a balance from all sides.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Do you think Adam Smith the author of the Wealth of Nations (1776) would agree with your comments???
    why should I care?

    and why would I have any belief you could understand his rational if he did?



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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Um, Adam Smith lived before the Industrial Revolution.
    Ok, so why would you use him? Relevance?

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Or you can simply leave if you are that unhappy. Might I suggest the center of Antartica?

    But feel free to choose revolution if you want. Although given the amount of people that would actually follow a revolution (small handful at best), I would put money on the teabaggers getting mowed down pretty quickly.

    You see the quite large majority of the country (both sodes) are not insane and do not believe we are under some dictatorship or tyranny needing revolution. Do we have an inefficient government? Yes we do and they are elected by the people. Do we have a government that needs to be disposed of by a violent revolution? No, we don't. Not even close.

    So have fun with your rhetoric of revolution if it makes you feel better. The rest of us will stay in reality.
    It's a very quiet revolution talking place. Companies are leaving, as we all know, but so are people. More would probably leave if they could sell their homes, the main asset of most people. I spend a lot of time in Central America and the Europeans have been fleeing there for the past few years but now its Americans who are trying to escape and start a new life elsewhere.

    "You've got a Republic...if you can keep it", and apparently this generation is willing to put it all at risk.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not at all. There are plenty of regulations on business now, that unions have become little more than organized thugs is apparent today. Tell me, when was the last time you can remember that a union strike had anything to do with safety in the workplace? Or for that matter child labor? No, they are nearly 100% today about strangling the business for ever more until that business can no longer sustain their business, then that business either goes under, or moves out of country, and the libs blame it on greed.....It's greed all right, greed from a small percentage of the total workforce that are only recognized as the workers of America by the democrat hacks that cater to them.

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    idiocy. pure idiocy. the unions are certainly NOT about that, they are about negotiating a fair wage for a fair days work. tell me why the unions would want to strangle the companies that pay them? idiocy.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    But Barrack Obama will try to follow no matter where you go, in order to get your money. Some countries have acquiesced to US pressure, like Costa Rica (which may go back to ignoring them), others have fought back, like Canada.

    Canadian finance minister tells IRS to back off - Bill Mann's Canada - MarketWatch
    The people the IRS are going after are people with DUAL citizenship. These dual citizenship people want to have their cake and eat it to. They want to keep their U.S. citizenship AND live in Canada.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    idiocy. pure idiocy. the unions are certainly NOT about that, they are about negotiating a fair wage for a fair days work. tell me why the unions would want to strangle the companies that pay them? idiocy.

    What is idiocy is allowing pap like this 'fair wage, for fair work' crap go unchallenged. Tell me how much you think pushing a broom in a factory is worth? $30 an hour? More?

    And how do you think all this high priced labor costs America in the global economy due to its purposely inflicted pricing disparity among like products? Don't be blind.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The people the IRS are going after are people with DUAL citizenship. These dual citizenship people want to have their cake and eat it to. They want to keep their U.S. citizenship AND live in Canada.
    And the IRS wants to investigate bank accounts in Canada. That's not going to happen any more than Canada could go on exploratory trips in US bank accounts.

    There are many wealthy Americans moving up up Canada, the government is trying to encourage more, and I suspect that was also a message that their bank accounts will be safe.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    idiocy. pure idiocy. the unions are certainly NOT about that, they are about negotiating a fair wage for a fair days work. tell me why the unions would want to strangle the companies that pay them? idiocy.
    The Unions were told many times in Detroit that their demands would break the companies but the Unions, in order to impress their members, bled them for anything they could anyway, or the plants would be shut down.

    These threats worked for a time and the consumer, not knowing any better, was forced to pay for these gas guzzling unsafe cars until competition arrived, something the unions and the companies, were unused to.

    The lesson is that reality will eventually conquer fantasy, that you cannot get something for nothing in this world indefinitely.

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