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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You are a one trick pony, the war in Iraq, the war in Iraq, the war in Iraq. How did that hurt you and your family. Both wars cost 1.4 trillion in 10 years or 140 billion a year. That didn't create the 14.6 trillion debt
    I'm sure the families of those that died in the war can testify how it has hurt them.

    Tell us conservative, what did you sacrifice for the war in Iraq? Nothing?

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    No. It would be an exercise in futility. You believe that all of them are Constitutional. Nothing I could say or do would convince you. I shall not waste my time.

    But the bureaucratic branch is the reason we are doomed.
    See Article I


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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I'm sure the families of those that died in the war can testify how it has hurt them.

    Tell us conservative, what did you sacrifice for the war in Iraq? Nothing?
    NOt relevant



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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    anytime you want to put your money where your mouth is I will be happy to oblige you.

    remind me where you got your law degree and what state you are licensed in
    I never made the claim it was unconstitutional, YOU did. This is not about me this is about you claiming all the other lawyers that have deemed this appropriate being wrong. So if you are right, why aren't you out there right now trying to get this case heard from the supreme court? Cause we know you are phony or you are a ambulance chaser and nothing more.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    FICA IS payroll tax
    No, payroll tax is a category that includes FICA, but not all payroll taxes are FICA. For example, unemployment taxes and disability insurance taxes are other payroll taxes

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    the law, is the law, is the law.

    its that simple.
    Oh please, save us the talking points.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I'm sure the families of those that died in the war can testify how it has hurt them.

    Tell us conservative, what did you sacrifice for the war in Iraq? Nothing?
    I had three family members in Iraq, two in the Army and one a Marine. All three came back and said we did the right thing. I don't have any respect for people whose entire argument is based upon a false sense of loyalty to our military for if you had loyalty to our military you would support their mission and stop bitching about that which you don't understand.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    NOt relevant

    Conservative asked how the Iraq war have hurt people. It's relevant. If you don't like it, tough. Deal with it!

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Why do you believe that one clause, to provide for the general welfare trumps the entire rest of the Constitution?
    It doesn't at all. It only grants the government two powers- to tax and to spend. If it wants to exercise any other power it needs to find that power somewhere else. For example, the EPA regulates businesses, so it could not exist just under the spending clause. It also has regulatory powers, so those need to come from somewhere. In that case, the commerce clause is where they come from. Without the commerce clause, there could be no EPA. But something like the department of Education has no power. It can't tell anybody to do anything. So they don't need any powers beyond spending.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What I want is the govt. to get back to the intent of the Founders
    You don't think the founders intended for the country to be a prosperous, thriving, first world country? Why?

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