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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so it is your learned opinion as a respected constitutional lawyer that whatever the supreme court says is written in stone and that no dissenting opinion can be tolerated?

    You are unlearned and clueless on this subject
    I don't think he said that. I went back and looked at his posts and he did not say that. Dissent is certainly permitted -and in our society encouraged. Living in a world which denies legal reality is not. That is what I thought his point was.
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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Oh I see what you're saying. All those ones with no numbers next to them you just want to cancel. So you basically just want to eliminate the government entirely except for the military... Yeah, that's what I said would happen if you tried to get all the cuts from just cutting domestic spending. Obviously no sane person would actually support that of course. It would mean the US would immediately become a third world nation... So that's one option. Collapse the country down to third world status.

    Another option would be to make cuts in the military, cuts domestically, and raise revenues. That would be kind of tough. We'd need to do some serious adjusting. But we would certainly still remain first world.

    I don't see why we would opt for the third world anarchy option...
    What I want is the govt. to get back to the intent of the Founders which is to defend this nation which is about 600 billion a year, leaving 800 billion for the rest. That hardly guts the govt. but it does put the power back where it belongs at the state level. All social programs should be handled by the states, local communities and charities. Right now govt. is way too big, too powerful and to subject to corruption. Love how people like you believe it was the Central govt. that made this country great. History says you are wrong, individual entreprenuers made this country great. If you cannot run the govt. on 1.4 trillion dollars there is something wrong.

    Just an example in 1965 with 175 million people the budget of the U.S. was 250 billion dollars, today it is 3.7 trillion with 310 million people. Make a case for that amount. I am saying you can increase the 1965 budget by 6 times and do quite well. Too many people don't know history.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so it is your learned opinion as a respected constitutional lawyer that whatever the supreme court says is written in stone and that no dissenting opinion can be tolerated...
    the law, is the law, is the law.

    its that simple.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    No thanks, I don't want your money. You could send it to IRS to help pay for Bush's war in Iraq.

    Elizabeth Warren just entered the race for U.S. Senator from Massachusetts and she's already ahead of Scott Brown in the polls.
    You are a one trick pony, the war in Iraq, the war in Iraq, the war in Iraq. How did that hurt you and your family. Both wars cost 1.4 trillion in 10 years or 140 billion a year. That didn't create the 14.6 trillion debt

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so it is your learned opinion as a respected constitutional lawyer that whatever the supreme court says is written in stone and that no dissenting opinion can be tolerated?

    You are unlearned and clueless on this subject
    Coming from someone pretending to be a lawyer like you that's funny.

    As I said before, of you're right you should have no problem with other lawyers backing you and paying your way to take it to the supreme court. Obviously your conviction is lacking as we haven't seen anything from you. Why not, I mean you know more than all those lawyers right?

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    No, because the person making $50k also pays FICA and payroll taxes on that where the investor does not. And the person making $50k pays sales taxes on a large percentage of their income, where the person making $50m does not. And property taxes and vehicle taxes, etc.
    FICA IS payroll tax

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    the law, is the law, is the law.

    its that simple.
    using your simplistic paradigm women never would have gained the vote nor slaves their freedom



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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Coming from someone pretending to be a lawyer like you that's funny.

    As I said before, of you're right you should have no problem with other lawyers backing you and paying your way to take it to the supreme court. Obviously your conviction is lacking as we haven't seen anything from you. Why not, I mean you know more than all those lawyers right?
    anytime you want to put your money where your mouth is I will be happy to oblige you.

    remind me where you got your law degree and what state you are licensed in



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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Yeah? How much do I pay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Then those who are excluding the C.G. arguement are free to do so.
    Not sure what you mean "C.G. argument"

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I think he was under a bridge...it is where the trolls live.
    Thanks for the intelligent answer.


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