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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I disagree with Obama's plan.

    I also find the liberal hypocrisy regarding tax hikes for the wealthy to be lol worthy. So the liberal platform is typically "keep the government out of my bedroom!" "Keep the government out of women's wombs!" "Keep the government out of my lifestyle as it relates to marijuana!" "Keep the government away from the religious morals of the voting populace!"

    All that flips with "Keep the government in someone else's wallet who has more than me." The typical argument I've seen is "if something doesn't affect you, then you have no right to stop it or interfere with another's choices." Many apply this argument to marijuana usage, sexual ethics, and abortion. Why not be consistent and not dictate how much someone else should pay in taxes? Why should you intrude upon someone's finances with your beliefs (that affect someone else and not you) and demand that they have to pay more? Hypocrisy is silly
    There's no hypocrisy. In a just society, the state has to provide people with as much freedom as it can obtain for them. Specific rights are limited according to society's ability to accommodate them while maintaining its structural integrity.

    The United States can easily accommodate legalized cannabis. It can't easily accommodate large differences in the household incomes of between lower and upper tax brackets.
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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Does Buffet really pay a lower rate than his secretary? Or is that another version of truferism, like, "Bush was AWOL", or, "9/11 was an inside job"?
    very pathetic & dishonest comparisons. even if Buffett is incorrect, its still in no way similar to an accusation of mass-treason.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    very pathetic & dishonest comparisons. even if Buffett is incorrect, its still in no way similar to an accusation of mass-treason.
    In regard to the fantasy claim, they're all equal.
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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    well not quite, but close. and how many long term cap gains do you think poor people have?
    How many jobs do poor people create ??

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    How many jobs do poor people create ??
    As poorer people buy a lot of worthless crap, quite a few. Mindless worship of business and wealthy is not really admirable. Let's not bestow super human powers on them. They only provide what will make a profit, needing buyers and workers every bit as much as we need their capital.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    How many jobs do poor people create ??
    None, but they buy toothpaste and toilet paper and those purchases are going to bail out the economy.
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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    How many jobs do poor people create ??
    Given the number of people who are now making a living doing yard work, odd jobs, baby-sitting, being care-givers, etc. because they are unable to find employment with the rich, it could be argued that they have created a lot of new jobs.
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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    None, but they buy toothpaste and toilet paper and those purchases are going to bail out the economy.
    Yes, if people buy, the economy will grow. Exactly. you're starting to get actual economics.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, if people buy, the economy will grow. Exactly. you're starting to get actual economics.
    Yeah, but they have to buy a helluvalot more than toiletries.
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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah, but they have to buy a helluvalot more than toiletries.
    A lot of people buying a lot of things, yes. And they do buy more than toiletries. Rent to own is doing fine.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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