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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Do you accept that the President of the United States lied when he said "It is wrong that in the United States of America, a teacher or a nurse or a construction worker who earns $50,000 should pay higher tax rates than somebody pulling in $50 million. ... We can't afford these special lower rates for the wealthy. ... Middle-class families shouldn't pay higher taxes than millionaires and billionaires" or do you feel he was mistaken, or do you feel he only misrepresented the situation?

    In other words is he stupid, does he believe the American people to be stupid, or is he just a liar?
    He's a lying POS. that is the only possible conclusion



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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    what was your experience? you didnt make the big decisions, you didnt produce any products or provide any service, you were a low level lackey who took orders from the higher ups....your misrepresenting yourself...
    that is oh so interesting a charge coming from a union member



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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I love it when conservatives bring up freedom and liberty.
    Thank goodness.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    You mean of course the freedom and liberty for gays to have their marriages recognized by the state? Do you mean the freedom and liberty to take marijuanna? Do you mean the freedom to protest instead of "free speech" zones implemented? Do you mean the freedom and liberty to burn a flag? Do you mean the freedom and liberty to not have television censored?
    Quandary. You have it somewhat right. Shall we take them one at a time?
    - Freedom of the various states to define marriage through their legislatures. Yes. Mandated by the courts. No.
    - Freedom to protest. No. Freedom to peaceably assemble to redress grievances against the state? Yes.
    - Freedom to burn a flag. Given that the right to speak freely includes symbolic speech I absolutely agree that you have the right to burn a flag you own.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Oh you just meant freedom and liberty for YOUR ideas only right?
    Insofar as the freedoms and liberties are the ones that guarantee me the lowest possible interference from the state, yes. May I point you toward the founding documents, beginning with the US Constitution? Let us start there as that is the binding agreement we have.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Face it, conservatives really don't have a leg to stand on with freedom and liberty since the majority of the have NO problem themselves with using government to enforce their anti-freedom and anti-liberty acts.
    I think you have a misunderstanding of conservatism.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Do you accept that the President of the United States lied when he said "It is wrong that in the United States of America, a teacher or a nurse or a construction worker who earns $50,000 should pay higher tax rates than somebody pulling in $50 million. ... We can't afford these special lower rates for the wealthy. ... Middle-class families shouldn't pay higher taxes than millionaires and billionaires" or do you feel he was mistaken, or do you feel he only misrepresented the situation?

    In other words is he stupid, does he believe the American people to be stupid, or is he just a liar?
    Where did the President of the United States lie?


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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    He's a lying POS. that is the only possible conclusion
    To a Marxist the ends justifies the means. Lying is just a means to his despicable end. He is doing enormous damage to this nation. Even after we defeat him and send him packing, I am no longer certain we can overcome the amount of damage he has done and will continue to do.

    But we have to try.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Where did the President of the United States lie?
    every time that clown claims the rich don't pay their fair share of income taxes



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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post

    So you wouldn't come close to balancing the budget:

    Education- $77 billion
    Energy- $29 billion
    Transportation- $13 billion
    EPA- $8 billion
    5% of remaining budget minus SS and Medicare- $119 billion

    Total cuts you're proposing: $246 billion. Remaining deficit: $1.354 trillion.
    This would be a start. There are about 50 extra-constitutional departments and agencies filled with bureaucratic busybodies churning out regulations. Those regulations cost all of us about a trillion dollars a year. So let's just chuck 'em. We have about two million busybody bureaucrats. They need to get real jobs.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Where did the President of the United States lie?
    I think he was under a bridge...it is where the trolls live.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    This would be a start. There are about 50 extra-constitutional departments and agencies filled with bureaucratic busybodies churning out regulations. Those regulations cost all of us about a trillion dollars a year. So let's just chuck 'em. We have about two million busybody bureaucrats. They need to get real jobs.
    Name one department that you do not think is authorized by the constitution and I'll happily point you to the passage that it draws it's authority from. That's just one of those things tea party types say, it isn't like it's true or anything.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Name one department that you do not think is authorized by the constitution and I'll happily point you to the passage that it draws it's authority from. That's just one of those things tea party types say, it isn't like it's true or anything.
    education for one



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