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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

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    You said the rich promote class warfare and that is a broad brush with no proof to support it.
    No he didn't say rich people, he said your side. If you aren't rich, he's not talking about rich people.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

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    You won't see rich people in the streets protesting if such a law is passed but in the meantime you will see people pointing out the hypocrisy of liberals in promoting such a law. If it is determined that the rich should pay more in taxes, the top 1% or about 1.4 million people, then don't expect me to stop pointing out the irrelevance of taxes on that number and how little it will provide to the Federal Govt. thus a drop in the bucket in the overall scope of our economy.
    The rich won't be protesting in the streets because all they need to do is pay off Republican legislators to make sure the law won't pass. That's what you call a no-brainer.


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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    No he didn't say rich people, he said your side. If you aren't rich, he's not talking about rich people.
    Thank you. It shouldn't be this hard to understand.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You said the rich promote class warfare and that is a broad brush with no proof to support it.
    No, I didn't. Read above.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    No he didn't say rich people, he said your side. If you aren't rich, he's not talking about rich people.
    "My side?" What is my side? Keep spinning and ignoring the party that really promotes class warfare, the Democrat Party! Still waiting for the definition of "fair share" that should be required of all Americans. 65 million INCOME EARNING Americans are paying ZERO FIT, is that their fair share?

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    "My side?" What is my side? Keep spinning and ignoring the party that really promotes class warfare, the Democrat Party! Still waiting for the definition of "fair share" that should be required of all Americans. 65 million INCOME EARNING Americans are paying ZERO FIT, is that their fair share?
    Those of you who keep saying there is a class warfare going on. You. TD. Fox political entertainers. Others.

    Now you try and change the subject?

    And no one is paying zero in overall taxes. So, be more specific in your statements.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Those of you who keep saying there is a class warfare going on. You. TD. Fox political entertainers. Others.

    Now you try and change the subject?

    And no one is paying zero in overall taxes. So, be more specific in your statements.
    You know when the right accuses the left of something, they are doing it themselves. The "class war" is against the lower and middle class.


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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Those of you who keep saying there is a class warfare going on. You. TD. Fox political entertainers. Others.

    Now you try and change the subject?

    And no one is paying zero in overall taxes. So, be more specific in your statements.
    Really, we are promoting class warfare? You don't see any Conservative calling for raising taxes on a particular group but instead saying that the tax rates should be fair for all, not one group paying 38% and another paying zero.

    Overall taxes? That is the liberal spin now when they realize they are losing the argument. FIT is what funds most of the Federal Govt and I have listed the line items. 65 million working Americans don't fund those functions. Other taxes are mostly state and local taxes. Still waiting for your definition of fair including is ZERO FIT fair? Then tell me what happens to state tax revenue when the Federal Govt. raises taxes on one group of taxpayers? Think those people won't be looking for a lower tax state to move to?

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    You know when the right accuses the left of something, they are doing it themselves. The "class war" is against the lower and middle class.
    Cite specifics of that class war? I don't see people in the streets protesting those who don't pay any FIT? You continue to complain that we have a revenue problem but fail to offer the definition of fair share or how much raising the taxes on those evil rich people will generate for the govt? Wonder when Buffett is going to pay his billion dollars in back taxes since you support his claim that taxes should be raised on the rich?

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    How does one give a federal income tax break to one who pays no federal income tax? About half of us do not pay anything. A percentage of those get a redistribution of wealth payment from the government.
    Two things...

    1 - I never mentioned income tax. You're free to abuse that particular strawman all you like. It has nothing to do with my statement.
    2 - You're lying when you claim half of us do not pay anything. In fact, it's a bold face lie. You should be embarrassed.
    Class warfare is a Marxist tool. It works. Those of you who are liberal class warriors seeking to take from those who make your lives far better than they otherwise would be, what happens when you run out of their money?
    What I presented was simple and direct. 5% of the population are doing fine and dandy while the remaining 95% are stuggling. We also have a massive deficit. We can cut jobs and make it even harder for those in the 95% range to improve or we can tax the 5% a small amount more to make up the difference. In my view the better option would be to tax the 5% who aren't struggling at all to make up the difference so the 95% can be in a better position to improve the entire countries economy. Something that 5% aren't currently doing because they can't generating the necessary demand to start the any movement... and based on the current situation, are not willing to do it.

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