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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    The rich may have to pay a little more in taxes. WAAAAAAAAAA!

    The divide between the rich and the poor might actually close a tiny morsel. WAAAAAAAAAAA!

    "Class warfare." WAAAAAAAAAAA!

    The top tax bracket might actually nudge a bit closer to the Nixon tax rates or the Eisenhower tax rates. WAAAAAAAAAAAA!

    The rich may have to start buying slightly smaller yachts. WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

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    Christ! What is up with the crybabiness??
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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    5% of the population will not and simply cannot consume as much as the remaining 95%. So giving tax cuts to the 95% will have a much better impact on consumer demand.
    How does one give a federal income tax break to one who pays no federal income tax? About half of us do not pay anything. A percentage of those get a redistribution of wealth payment from the government.

    Class warfare is a Marxist tool. It works. Those of you who are liberal class warriors seeking to take from those who make your lives far better than they otherwise would be, what happens when you run out of their money?

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I hate to break this to you, but this thread isn't about the 2009 stimulus bill.

    Nice try though
    No, it's about stimulus light, or stimulus part two..... take you choice. This one will fail like the first one.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Some people just cannot stand the idea of freedom or of liberty. I count you among them.
    save the hyperbole.

    the whiny wealthy can afford to pay more in income taxes, while the poor & middle-class really can't.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Some people just cannot stand the idea of freedom or of liberty. I count you among them.
    I love it when conservatives bring up freedom and liberty. You mean of course the freedom and liberty for gays to have their marriages recognized by the state? Do you mean the freedom and liberty to take marijuanna? Do you mean the freedom to protest instead of "free speech" zones implemented? Do you mean the freedom and liberty to burn a flag? Do you mean the freedom and liberty to not have television censored?

    Oh you just meant freedom and liberty for YOUR ideas only right?

    Face it, conservatives really don't have a leg to stand on with freedom and liberty since the majority of the
    have NO problem themselves with using government to enforce their anti-freedom and anti-liberty acts.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    save the hyperbole.

    the whiny wealthy can afford to pay more in income taxes, while the poor & middle-class really can't.
    The reality is the wealthy can pay more. There are legitimate questions around how to do it. Obama's approach is to leave this broken tax system to continue and add a few more complexities like a new AMT, when the current AMT is broken. Or do we do what we did I think in 1986 during a divided government and materially change the tax system.

    Also this whole tax the rich or not issue is a sideshow because neither side is coming up with substantive solutions to the long term problems of the US economy.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I love it when conservatives bring up freedom and liberty. You mean of course the freedom and liberty for gays to have their marriages recognized by the state? Do you mean the freedom and liberty to take marijuanna? Do you mean the freedom to protest instead of "free speech" zones implemented? Do you mean the freedom and liberty to burn a flag? Do you mean the freedom and liberty to not have television censored?

    Oh you just meant freedom and liberty for YOUR ideas only right?

    Face it, conservatives really don't have a leg to stand on with freedom and liberty since the majority of the
    have NO problem themselves with using government to enforce their anti-freedom and anti-liberty acts.
    You want your marriage recognized by the state, get the state to approve it. There is nothing in the Constitution that mentions marriage. Keep pushing and the country will enact a Constitutional Amendment against gay marriage since most don't believe in it.

    Seems that liberals believe only in the freedoms that they support but not the freedom others support. This is a country of laws, you don't like the law, get it changed, if you cannot get it changed live by it.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    The reality is the wealthy can pay more. There are legitimate questions around how to do it. Obama's approach is to leave this broken tax system to continue and add a few more complexities like a new AMT, when the current AMT is broken. Or do we do what we did I think in 1986 during a divided government and materially change the tax system.

    Also this whole tax the rich or not issue is a sideshow because neither side is coming up with substantive solutions to the long term problems of the US economy.
    Isn't it amazing, when you ask a liberal how much money taxing the rich will generate we get nothing but talking points and no specifics. When facts are pointed out regarding the size of govt. and the fact that the deficit has never been addressed with more money, liberals ignore it and resort to talking points.

    The fact that 90 million Americans(25 million unemployed and under employed Americans, 65 million employed Americans-47% of 140 employed Americans) aren't paying any FIT is ignored as liberals want to promote class warfare to get their agenda through. Those people are either far left radicals or brainwashed individuals who don't understand the consequences of their beliefs.

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