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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Nah, if you think it's true, post a link from a credible source.
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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

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    I am not on my comp. I thought I made that clear. Just got this smart phone, still learning it. But glad to see the spirit of cooperation is alive and well with you.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    j-mac can't refute what I said so he's tossing ad homs around. Ad homs are SOP for the right because they have no arguments to make, no ideas, and no principles.
    Ad Hominem attack is all you do. Frankly I am surprised you choose to be so transparent.


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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

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    There's nothing more cowardly than someone who refuses to defend their own words
    Pure troll.
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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I am not on my comp. I thought I made that clear. Just got this smart phone, still learning it. But glad to see the spirit of cooperation is alive and well with you.

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    Well, if you come up with something, feel free to post it. I have no idea how I'd even go about finding whatever it is that you think said that. Presumably it's just one of the things that he proposed in negotiations, not some gotcha to blow the first deal or something... Boehner arguably was sincere in negotiating at some points, but Cantor was just totally insane and made it impossible for Boehner to agree to anything at all.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    I mean obviously people like you are going to say that about any spending cut a Democrat proposes. It isn't like that's true or something, that's just nonsense wingnuts blurt out instinctively. You can look up the cuts there are obviously way too many to list off here.
    You misrepresented the facts concerning personal charity so it's understandable why someone would expect you to provide info concerning these cuts if you wish for them to believe you.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

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    You misrepresented the facts concerning personal charity
    Er, what? Where? I said the charitable FOREIGN AID was very limited. You didn't come up with anything that countered that at all... I assumed you conceded the point. Are you contending that it is not limited still? Have you dug up any evidence supporting that position since we discussed it?

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Er, what? Where? I said the charitable FOREIGN AID was very limited. You didn't come up with anything that countered that at all... I assumed you conceded the point. Are you contending that it is not limited still? Have you dug up any evidence supporting that position since we discussed it?
    Here is what you said.

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    Unfortunately private donations are pretty much irrelevant. We do give slightly more than most other countries in private donations, but it's a drop in the bucket compared to the numbers nations give . I looked it up before and it didn't even take us up to 0.14% of our GDP total.
    I showed the numbers and it showed that as a nation we give MORE individually than any country gives. At least 34 billion with the closest country outside of the U.S. giving $12.5 billion. Almost three times what the most giving country outside of the U.S., France gives.

    And you are still argueing it's very limited? Recall you said you looked it up and private giving barely made any difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Unfortunately private donations are pretty much irrelevant. We do give slightly more than most other countries in private donations, but it's a drop in the bucket compared to the numbers nations give. I looked it up before and it didn't even take us up to 0.14% of our GDP total.
    It more than doubles it. There is no sin in being wrong.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    I mean obviously people like you are going to say that about any spending cut a Democrat proposes. It isn't like that's true or something, that's just nonsense wingnuts blurt out instinctively. You can look up the cuts there are obviously way too many to list off here.
    Then post the list of cuts? You continue to buy the rhetoric and ignore the substance. I never see substance from you, just feelings.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    You can't tackle the deficit and the debt with cuts alone. It's just not possible.
    Sure you could.

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