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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    That argument sounds very self-referential
    That would be better than just making an argument based on speculation now wouldn't it?

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Well, then it's a good thing we have politicians to tell us what to do ain't it?


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    Except people on the internet. The typical internet user has an IQ of 147 and a 9 inch penis.
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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    What if we extended tax cuts to businesses who actually create jobs? Not to businesses who MIGHT create a job, but only to the one who actually do so?

    Would that pass ideological muster?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    What if we extended tax cuts to businesses who actually create jobs? Not to businesses who MIGHT create a job, but only to the one who actually do so?

    Would that pass ideological muster?
    The problem is not so much the taxes or the cuts as it is the fact that business is not growing because people are not spending. Companies are not going to take risks like expansion in a market that can't make up it's mind on which direction it is going, and especially when it is heading in the wrong direction. No amount of molesting the tax code is going to fix that problem. None of this was a problem until it cost people $4 a gallon to put gas in their cars.
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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Smokified View Post
    The problem is not so much the taxes or the cuts as it is the fact that business is not growing because people are not spending. Companies are not going to take risks like expansion in a market that can't make up it's mind on which direction it is going. No amount of molesting the tax code is going to fix that problem. None of this was a problem until it cost people $4 a gallon to put gas in their cars.
    I am not really asking if it would work so much as to whether or not it would be ideologically acceptable.
    Ideology is what stands in the way of practicality on a wide variety of issues in and out of politics. As abstract and ephemeral as ideology is, it does have real world effects and implications.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by ZIRP4EVA View Post
    Obama's math:

    Pretending that the Iraq and Afghanistan wars will go on in perpetuity and then counting $1.1 trillion in savings by "ending" them.


    So, the $3 trillion is really comprised of ~$1.5 trillion in new taxes, ~$1.1 trillion in mythical war spending savings, and then a measely ~$400 billion in true spending cuts. That's his "balanced approach".
    That was Paul Ryan's math as well.


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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Why do you have a problem with Obama asking the wealthiest Americans to pay the same exact tax rate that most middle class people pay?
    As of yet, we have not actually seen him ask that. He's made vague remarks with nothing to show for them. When he actually comes up with a plan, then maybe someone can debate it. Until then, it's the same old, same old out of him. Nothing.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    I'm blah to it. Govt will find new ways to spend, corps will move more capital to overseas, our debt is still going to go up and nobody wants to tackle the big elephants in the room. Short sighted plan that is expected from the establishment to keep the sheep, sheepie. Good political tactic, nothing else.
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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    As of yet, we have not actually seen him ask that. He's made vague remarks with nothing to show for them. When he actually comes up with a plan, then maybe someone can debate it. Until then, it's the same old, same old out of him. Nothing.
    the problem with Obumble's idiocy is as follows

    1) what is the average middle class tax rate. 47% of america has an effective tax rate of ZERO. that group encompasses a lot of the middle class.

    2) is he going to impose a flat rate on millionaires no matter if their income is

    a) mainly salary (earned income)

    b) long term capital gains

    c) Dividends (which are double taxed)

    you can have three people each making 5 million a year having very different effective tax rates



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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the problem with Obumble's idiocy is as follows

    1) what is the average middle class tax rate. 47% of america has an effective tax rate of ZERO. that group encompasses a lot of the middle class.
    Which is a point entirely seperate.

    2) is he going to impose a flat rate on millionaires no matter if their income is

    a) mainly salary (earned income)

    b) long term capital gains

    c) Dividends (which are double taxed)

    you can have three people each making 5 million a year having very different effective tax rates
    I hope so but my guess is we never see any plan.

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