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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    the point is, no one is going out of business because they have to wear a safety harness. that's what we were discussing.
    The point is that these regulations cost businesses money and do absolutely no good.

    What's their purpose??

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    So you agree we should giving the money currently being doled out in corporate welfare to households to stimulate the economy and grow jobs? Cool
    Most corporate welfare is corporations keeping more of what they earn and thus "we" aren't giving them anything that they haven't earned. Tax cuts mean more spendable income and allows people to keep more of what they earn. Liberals don't seem to understand that although I bet most of those are college kids here who are being fed total and complete bs.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Most corporate welfare is corporations keeping more of what they earn and thus "we" aren't giving them anything that they haven't earned. Tax cuts mean more spendable income and allows people to keep more of what they earn. Liberals don't seem to understand that although I bet most of those are college kids here who are being fed total and complete bs.
    You might want to investigate corporate welfare more. I don't thiink you have it quite right.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    The point is that these regulations cost businesses money and do absolutely no good.

    What's their purpose??
    No good? None of them? Now that is something that really needs to be supported. I don't think it can be.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No good? None of them? Now that is something that really needs to be supported. I don't think it can be.
    OK, I'll revise my comment........... They do almost no good. I'll concede that one person out of a hundred might get tangled in his harness enough to prevent a fall.

    Happy now?

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    The point is that these regulations cost businesses money and do absolutely no good.

    What's their purpose??
    Do you want to return to the Industrial Revolution style of regulation and oversight?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    OK, I'll revise my comment........... They do almost no good. I'll concede that one person out of a hundred might get tangled in his harness enough to prevent a fall.

    Happy now?
    Not really. I am dong some looking into the numbers, and so far I find that falls are a significant problem for roofer's with huge costs. Seems it would be prudent to at least try and help.

    So, do you have numbers that show the harness has made no difference in the injury rate?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Do you want to return to the Industrial Revolution style of regulation and oversight?
    No, I want to return to an era of common sense when regulations weren't enacted with no forethought.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not really. I am dong some looking into the numbers, and so far I find that falls are a significant problem for roofer's with huge costs. Seems it would be prudent to at least try and help.

    So, do you have numbers that show the harness has made no difference in the injury rate?
    Yes, it would be prudent if the harnesses actually helped. Your numbers are worthless unless you can document the roof slopes involved.

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    Re: Obama to propose $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Most people don't make these decisions based on ideology. They decide based on what they think works "best"
    It's more likely that people make decisions based on how it will affect their relationships with those around them.
    Rational Irrationality
    I may be wrong.

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