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White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

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Were they ever solved locally?

If they weren't whose fault is that? The Founders had it figured out, power belongs closest to the people and thus the people get the govt. they deserve. Instead of accepting responsibilty for failure people like you pass the buck to the Federal Govt. who by it size simply cannot solve local problems but it does give you an outlet to divert from personal responsibility.
 
So your solution is to just put the poor in jail? What about civil rights?

Liberal logic seems to be to send your dollars to a large Federal Bureaucracy in D.C. so they can administer that money how they see fit and thus waste the money. You of course can send your money directly to the people in need but that thought escapes you.
 
If they weren't whose fault is that? The Founders had it figured out, power belongs closest to the people and thus the people get the govt. they deserve. Instead of accepting responsibilty for failure people like you pass the buck to the Federal Govt. who by it size simply cannot solve local problems but it does give you an outlet to divert from personal responsibility.

Oh that must be why they dissolved the Confederacy. :roll:

Now can you answer the question I posed or not?
 
So your solution is to just put the poor in jail? What about civil rights?

of dirty hippy protesters? they have all the rights afforded them at kent state :D
 
Can you explain to us what wall street is currently doing that is making the rich richer at the expense of the poor, elderly and middle class?

CORPORATIONS are being all... CORPORATIONY!!!
 
Oh that must be why they dissolved the Confederacy. :roll:

Now can you answer the question I posed or not?

Didn't realize that our Founders dissolved the Confederacy. Why don't you answer the question, in your world what is the role of the state and local governments as well as charities?
 
Didn't realize that our Founders dissolved the Confederacy. Why don't you answer the question, in your world what is the role of the state and local governments as well as charities?

Uh I asked you a question first. Can you answer it or not?
 
So why not a Confederacy?

i believe the approved spelling is: 'Con-federa-saaah'


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Didn't realize that our Founders dissolved the Confederacy.

i think he meant the articles of confederation, marked by the terminally weak central legislature.
 
I don't think killing citizens will work out in the long run.

well, it's only been a couple of hundred years that we've been at it so far, but it seems to not be cramping our style too bad.
 
Uh I asked you a question first. Can you answer it or not?

Yes, I can answer it but all my answers do is cause you to run. Guess I will have a long,long wait for you to tell me your vision as to the role of the state and local governments as you seem to believe in a large Central Govt. that provides you everything you want? Trouble is you never really get what you need. You have so much faith in the Federal Govt. that has created more dependence and higher poverty than any time in history so apparently solving problems isn't something that concerns you whereas spending "in the name" of compassion is.
 
What does Wall Street have to do with the problem? You really think the poor are investing in Wall Street? I have an alarm in my house and have yet seen Wall Street enter my house to steal anything. Sorry you had a bad experience with Wall Street as it probably isn't a place you should be investing. Your argument is bogus and makes no sense. Your outrage over Wall Street is just another excuse people make to divert from their own failures and acceptance of personal responsibility.

Wall Street/Atlantic city same agenda different place. Speculators drive up the price on life essential needs that even the poor require to sustain life, Bankers "predatory lending" focus on people who do not have the ability to pay off loans why because it is extremely profitable, hedge funds. Goldman Sacks 622.000.00 per year average salary all of that money comes from some where? The Wall Street bail outs where did the money come from was it tax payer money? You are in voluntary denial. Wall Street tanks 10 of thousands of people see their pensions shrink, where did the money go? If you want to know why they are demonstrating against Wall Street follow the money trail

Your support of Wall Street just means that you feel no remorse even when you realize that people worked hard for their money, I wonder why? For your information my savings where invested in low interest bearing accounts that were not subject to the ups and downs of stocks that are manipulated by Wall Street Brokers, my two pensions were not effected.

The difference between you and I, you have no compassion for others I do, you replaced the we in we the people with I the person. Wall Street should be shut down or heavily regulated maybe the occupy Wall Street protests will be the beginning of the end and the rich parasites that are sucking the life blood out of our economy will have to do some thing productive to earn a living
 
Wall Street/Atlantic city same agenda different place. Speculators drive up the price on life essential needs that even the poor require to sustain life, Bankers "predatory lending" focus on people who do not have the ability to pay off loans why because it is extremely profitable, hedge funds. Goldman Sacks 622.000.00 per year average salary all of that money comes from some where? The Wall Street bail outs where did the money come from was it tax payer money? You are in voluntary denial. Wall Street tanks 10 of thousands of people see their pensions shrink, where did the money go? If you want to know why they are demonstrating against Wall Street follow the money trail

Your support of Wall Street just means that you feel no remorse even when you realize that people worked hard for their money, I wonder why? For your information my savings where invested in low interest bearing accounts that were not subject to the ups and downs of stocks that are manipulated by Wall Street Brokers, my two pensions were not effected.

The difference between you and I, you have no compassion for others I do, you replaced the we in we the people with I the person. Wall Street should be shut down or heavily regulated maybe the occupy Wall Street protests will be the beginning of the end and the rich parasites that are sucking the life blood out of our economy will have to do some thing productive to earn a living

Sorry, Earl, I cannot deal with people like you who always blame someone else for your own failures. My idea of compassion is giving people actual help that makes them no longer need assitance. My compassion is giving to individuals not the govt. bureaucrats that waste money and keep people dependent. Your idea hat Wall Street takes from people is foolish and is just another diversion from your own failures. No one forced anyone to invest in Wall Street so that argument of yours is foolish.

Not sure what creates people like you but the fact is we have a 3.7 trillion dollar budget, 90 million Americans no paying any FIT(mostly people making 50k or less) and a 14.6 trillion dollar debt due to spending in the name of compassion that never generates compassionate results. The people sucking the blood out of the economy are liberals whose entire purpose in life is to keep people dependent. You are an enabler of that kind o activity.
 
Sorry, Earl, I cannot deal with people like you who always blame someone else for your own failures. My idea of compassion is giving people actual help that makes them no longer need assitance. My compassion is giving to individuals not the govt. bureaucrats that waste money and keep people dependent. Your idea hat Wall Street takes from people is foolish and is just another diversion from your own failures. No one forced anyone to invest in Wall Street so that argument of yours is foolish.

Not sure what creates people like you but the fact is we have a 3.7 trillion dollar budget, 90 million Americans no paying any FIT(mostly people making 50k or less) and a 14.6 trillion dollar debt due to spending in the name of compassion that never generates compassionate results. The people sucking the blood out of the economy are liberals whose entire purpose in life is to keep people dependent. You are an enabler of that kind o activity.

Nothing makes me happier then knowing that people like you can't deal with people like me, some of us count our blessings and some of us count our money, some of us know that there but for the grace of God go I and some of us think that they are god which are you.
 
It's also filled with people who are so full of themselves that they assume everyone envies them and so deluded that they think everyone who disagrees with them must be welfare mamas.

When you find one let me know. I do note that there are a bunch of lefties who have severe self esteem issues and easily get upset
 
Nothing makes me happier then knowing that people like you can't deal with people like me, some of us count our blessings and some of us count our money, some of us know that there but for the grace of God go I and some of us think that they are god which are you.

After reading your posts for the past month not sure which one are you. Sounds to me like you talk alot but do very little always expecting someone else to do it for you such as giving to those truly in need. You seem to be one that expects the govt. to do it for you. I know which one I am and I can honestly claim that you don't have a clue.
 
After reading your posts for the past month not sure which one are you. Sounds to me like you talk alot but do very little always expecting someone else to do it for you such as giving to those truly in need. You seem to be one that expects the govt. to do it for you. I know which one I am and I can honestly claim that you don't have a clue.

Lets see you support the rich stealing from the poor so that they can then give it to the poor, do I have that right?

Food speculation: aFood speculation: 'People die from hunger while banks make a killing on food' | Global development | The Observer


As food prices soar again to beyond 2008 levels, it becomes clear that everyone is now being affected. Food prices are now rising by up to 10% a year in Britain and Europe. What is more, says the UN, prices can be expected to rise at least 40% in the next decade.

There has always been modest, even welcome, speculation in food prices and it traditionally worked like this. Farmer X protected himself against climatic or other risks by "hedging", or agreeing to sell his crop in advance of the harvest to Trader Y. This guaranteed him a price, and allowed him to plan ahead and invest further, and it allowed Trader Y to profit, too. In a bad year, Farmer X got a good return but in a good year Trader Y did better.

When this process of "hedging" was tightly regulated, it worked well enough. The price of real food on the real world market was still set by the real forces of supply and demand.

But all that changed in the mid-1990s. Then, following heavy lobbying by banks, hedge funds and free market politicians in the US and Britain, the regulations on commodity markets were steadily abolished. Contracts to buy and sell foods were turned into "derivatives" that could be bought and sold among traders who had nothing to do with agriculture. In effect a new, unreal market in "food speculation" was born. Cocoa, fruit juices, sugar, staples, meat and coffee are all now global commodities, along with oil, gold and metals. Then in 2006 came the US sub-prime disaster and banks and traders stampeded to move billions of dollars in pension funds and equities into safe commodities, and especially foods.

I am just guessing but it appears that others "occupy wall street demonstrators" see it differently then you do, it appears that some are catching on and under stand how Wall Street is nothing more then an opportunity for the rich to continue to plunder the economy of our country, I think the end of the unregulated scam called Wall Street is coming, 2012 will be the end
 
Lets see you support the rich stealing from the poor so that they can then give it to the poor, do I have that right?



I am just guessing but it appears that others "occupy wall street demonstrators" see it differently then you do, it appears that some are catching on and under stand how Wall Street is nothing more then an opportunity for the rich to continue to plunder the economy of our country, I think the end of the unregulated scam called Wall Street is coming, 2012 will be the end

I feel sorry for you, always putting blame on someone else yet never doing a thing to help those that you claim you care about. I cannot believe you ever worked in the private sector. Your articles and you are a waste of time, never offering anything but opinions and never offering a solution. You apparently have no problem with govt. taking personal income and redistributing wealth. Govt has been taking personal income from individuals and today we have more in poverty than anytime in history. Where is your outrage over a govt that steals more and wastes more than Wall Street?
 
I feel sorry for you, always putting blame on someone else yet never doing a thing to help those that you claim you care about. I cannot believe you ever worked in the private sector. Your articles and you are a waste of time, never offering anything but opinions and never offering a solution. You apparently have no problem with govt. taking personal income and redistributing wealth. Govt has been taking personal income from individuals and today we have more in poverty than anytime in history. Where is your outrage over a govt that steals more and wastes more than Wall Street?

OMG, I think you just shattered the irony-O-meter. :2rofll: :2rofll: :2rofll:
 
Your idea hat Wall Street takes from people is foolish and is just another diversion from your own failures. No one forced anyone to invest in Wall Street so that argument of yours is foolish.
I think his argument is more concerned with most public corporations' primary concern of driving up the bottom line. Of course, corporations did not force these people to invest in their companies; however, society as a whole is invested in these companies, and likewise the other way. Let's take everyone's favorite case-in-point capitalist company in Wal-Mart. Why should they afford their employees adequate health care and pensions when that money could be invested elsewhere having been derived from profit instead of written off as an expense or put on the books as a liability?

the fact is we have a 3.7 trillion dollar budget, 90 million Americans no paying any FIT(mostly people making 50k or less) and a 14.6 trillion dollar debt due to spending in the name of compassion that never generates compassionate results.
I don't think anyone will contend that government (and its spending) is very overreaching at this point in time; otherwise, I think they're just not realizing the vastness of the bureaucratic structure in this country. Considering the vast amount of wealth that individuals have tied up in the capital structure of major corporations, I don't find it necessary for a good chunk of the population to pay taxes where they have not sustained anywhere near as great a benefit from this country's policies, resources, and citizens.

Also, I wouldn't entirely blame this country's debt problems on the generosity to those in this country not here legally and those unmotivated to be employed. Much of the country's expenses are wrapped up in military spending that has our country's imperialistic measures in a dick-measuring contest with that of England's back in its heyday.

The people sucking the blood out of the economy are liberals whose entire purpose in life is to keep people dependent. You are an enabler of that kind o activity.
Are vampires are liberals, but not all liberals are vampires.
 
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